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Et tu, Brute?

Posted by: Mighty Thor | 05/18/2008 11:27 AM

From The Steve Francis for Mayor Campaign:

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Comments

Hong Lair said:

I would not believe this was real if I did not get it in the mail myself.

Classic said:

Sometimes you have to shake your head and laugh.

High John de Conquerer said:

Sander might be an empty suit but Francis is ridiculous.

So, by inference, I guess Francis is going to "fight global warming."

Is there any chance we can find any 3rd choice at the last minute, even a good dead guy from the cemetery?

Maybe go without a mayor for 4 years?

Disincorporate the city and become part of Tijuana?

Mayor's Race said:

I'm not a Sander's fan because of his arrogance, sanctuary City policy and falsely speaking for us on gay marriage by signing the ammicus brief in favor of it.

However, Steve Francis just sealed his defeat with this. I thought about giving him a chance by voting for him but his leftist lean toward stupidity has reached new heights!

Although not perfect, Sanders is at least drawing a line with the unions and not promising raises to city union employees. Sanders is trying to hold the line on spending, and (at least not yet) is not spouting stupid global warming policies that will raise our taxes on just about everything!

Gary said:

Wasn't Steve endorsed by the party in 2005? Thought we'd forget about that huh Steve?

Why? said:

why is the francis campaign mailing republicans with this and the sierra club? is this guy trying to committ suicide??

I am not supporting Steve Francis or Jerry Sanders. I think that it is a disaster for those who have a knee-jerk reaction to the bad mayor that Sanders has been to support Francis. In the next week, I will be releasing a catastrophic report on Steve Francis. There is a terrible thing that Francis is involved with and when the voters realize what that is, those who have placed their names on the Francis enordsement list are going to look very, very foolish. Pastor Jim Garlow just pulled his endorsement of Francis once he realized that Franics supports gay civil unions. Then again, he should have known that before he endorsed him. I expect the rest of the pastors on Francis' endorsement list to pull their endorsements in the next few days. There are those who supported Francis the first time around who are still supporting him behind the scenes because they are tied to some bad things Francis is involved in. What a sad state of affairs the GOP is in in San Diego.

hhmmmm said:

I understand the Club. For many GOP'ers that is still valuble - especially coastal republicans (little known fact - more republicans than Dems in the local Sierra Club Chapter). But obviously R's getting this mailer would be a mistake. Maybe into a split household - or split with a DTS?

almost to the end said:

Because Steve is panicking. He is realizing that this will be over in June and the money he invested won't buy him an election. His polls show he hasn't gained traction in the last couple weeks.

I wonder if anyone can here the stress in his voice...

almost to the end said:

I meant hear!

Steve Supporter said:

I think the main reason he mailed this to democrats was to associate Sanders with Bush, hence the picture. It's time we finally get rid the mediocre Sanders and give Francis a shot. At least he doesn't support gay marriage. Talk about flip-flopping... that's exactly what Sanders did to us halfway through his term.

gop watcher said:

The interesting thing about the photo that Francis selected is that it was taken on a trip where Sanders brought back MILLIONS to our city because of the Mayor's unique and forceful entreaty. The money was revenue San Diego would not otherwise have been given.

To Why said:

Please think. He didn't send it to Reps, just because it is up on this blog.

Anonymous said:

"I am not supporting Steve Francis or Jerry Sanders."

James, thanks for being such a good Republican. We'll remember this enxt time you come up for an endorsement for an office for the party...

pfft... hahahahahahaha... like that would ever happen.

I am a good Republican, and that is why I am not supporting Francis or Sanders. A good Republican honors the party platform, something that Sanders and Francis have yet to do. I have more loyalty to the party platform than 95% of the current central committee members. There is a reason that Republicans are losing all over this nation and it is because the party keeps sending voters the likes of Sanders and Francis.

Mayflower Patriot said:

To James Hartline,

Who are you going to support then if not Francis or Sanders? I am asking this sincerely. Why don't you like Sanders?

Personally, I don't like Francis's arrogance. He has said that it just takes money to win.

Anonymous said:

"I am a good Republican..."

If you were, people within the party would have more respect for you.

"There is a reason that Republicans are losing all over this nation and it is because the party keeps sending voters the likes of Sanders and Francis."

The reason we're losing is because we don't have a sense of what we, as a national party organization, needs to do. Thankfully, our local party is rockin' and rollin' and has endorsed a reform slate for City Hall. This is exactly what we need for San Diego.

Perhaps maybe -- perhaps that's a message we need for the national races... not race baiting latinos, gays, blacks, or using God to get elected.

The local Republican Party leadership is not supporting me because I have gone after the corruption within the local party leadership. Over the past five years I have supported many Republicans for office and given hundreds of hours of my own personal time helping those who are faithful to the party platform and who uphold our Christian values. The Republican Party is disintegrating before our very eyes because they allowed corrupt people to come in and do terrible things: and the paid consultants and the powerful, power-hungry people within the leadership just looked the other way. And now we are paying the price. They knew for years about Larry Craig. They continued to embrace Mark Foley despite the evidence they had about his continuous predatory actions. And then, on a local level, look at the mess that was created by those who were profiting off of Mayor Murphy as he was involved in key decisions in the pension scandal. I didn't to this to the party. They did this. I have exposed and written on many who are involved in lying to, and deceiving, our people within the Christian Community and the local GOP. The leadership hates me for doing this and that is why they refuse to stand with me. Nearly every Christian Conservative left the local Republican central committee positions after the 2004 elections and right before the 2006 elections because they got fed up with the attacks against me and other Christians by the local GOP leadership. The leadership has done everything possible to marginalize me and to threaten people in the GOP who associate with me. That is the price you pay for doing the right thing and I will continue to pay that price. I have done, and will continue to do the right thing for our party and our people within the Christian Community. And if that means the current local GOP leaders and their consultants continue to battle against me, so be it. I refuse to compromise with corruption. We are now bearing the fruit of those who forced Schwarzengger upon us. We now have a more destructive financial situation under Schwarzenegger than we had under Davis. And look at what Schwarzenegger has said about the marriage ballot initiative. He is going to fight it. People who are obsessed with money and power will never respect people like me. But who cares. Because at the end of the day, the money will eventually dry up, the power will be gone, but I will have peace of mind and a deeper connection to my God because I stood firm for Him and our people despite the persecution committed by the corrupt against a faithful servant of the Lord Jesus Christ.

mmmnnnn... said:

Has anybody considered that this mail piece is an attempt by Francis to goad the GOP into engaging him in a partisan way. Considering the possitive approval rating of Schwartznegger post-partisanship (sorry guys but it is the truth) that if the party and/or affiliates attack Francis. It lends credence to the idea that he is infact a reformer who has seen the light and moved away from republican partisan politics. This diminishes the fact that ego is Francis sole motivation, and he is essentially trying to buy an election, like he did the last time. The title of "mayor of San Diego" is but merely a trophy to this man.

District 3 voter said:

Hey James, I went to go vote for you today but I think I accidentally voted for Hartley. Your names sounded similar. Aw well... it happens.

Cry me a river, oh said:

"Because at the end of the day, the money will eventually dry up, the power will be gone, but I will have peace of mind and a deeper connection to my God because I stood firm for Him and our people despite the persecution committed by the corrupt against a faithful servant of the Lord Jesus Christ."

James, you think way to highly of yourself. No one takes you seriously. How could they, when you attack every Christian who disagrees with you? Any elected official that believes in God/Jesus and is pro-life/family who doesn't follow your every move is some sort of heretic.

It is clear to everyone but the few dozen in your inner circle that you and Steve Francis have at least one thing in common - your political motivations are entirely self serving.

I kind of hope you win your central committee election because that will make the mostly boring meetings that much more entertaining.
You need to get over your self James.

Dr. Psychology said:

It is called:

Grandiose Delusional Disorder

Just Curious said:

Is it true that James Hartline, who is supposed to be a self-proclaimed "good republican" is endorsing democrats against several GOP-endorsed candidates?

Methinks he's not going to get elected to central committee.

Anonymous said:

Is it true that James Hartline eats babies because God told him so?

Anonymous said:

Will Thor please ban Hartline? Anytime there is a decent thread, Crackpot Hartline gets on and gives us his crazy dribble and people respond to him. It turns from political discussion to people trying to convince a crazy man that he is wrong. Its annoying.

CanonizeHartline.Com said:

James Hartline is a Saint. He toils in hopes of saving this city, yet he is stoned when everytime he speaks the Truth.

Anonymous said:

"yet he is stoned when everytime..."

Sorry, but the man may love God, but James Hartline is no Jesus Christ.

Anonymous said:

"Will Thor please ban Hartline?"

I agree. Mighty Thor, can you please toss Hartline to the Village of the Banned?

Steve Supporter said:

Dr. Psychology: I never knew professional psychologists diagnosed people over the internet.


Dr. Psychology said:

Who said I was a professional, but I bet the bank that a professional would agree with me. Ever hear of a handle there good buddy?

And why ban Hartline? At least we can confront his idiocy on Red County. He censors the replies to his blog.

Anonymous said:

"He censors the replies to his blog."

Well, then that makes it all the best to censor him here -- by eternal banishment from the land of Republican Heaven... that should knock his ego down a few notches *tee hee snicker snicker*

I'm curious said:

I don't really pay attention to Mr. Hartlines postings becuase they are often to long for me to care. What I do notice is the large number of bloggers who emphatically want him off this blogg.

I'd like to know simply how and/or is Mr. Hartlines antics hurting conservative causes?

Moving On. said:

How about we do not talk about James Hartline anymore, it is a waste of time! As for this mail piece, I wonder how Francis would respond if asked about it?

I'm curious said:

How about we do not talk about James Hartline anymore, it is a waste of time!

Apparently not. Mr. Hartline stirs up alot of emotional responses over the last several weeks and desires to banish him. This makes these blogs worth reading, and this site worth going to. I'd like to get to the root of this angst by those who don't like him. I'd like to know if and or how his antics are actually hurting conservative causes, or is this just personal?

Dr. Psychology said:

Yes, Mr. Hartline hurts conservative causes. If you went down the lists of issues Hartline and I would probably agree on 99% of the "political issues, but not necessarily the candidates. Mr. Hartline has a tendency to link people with one another based on VERY loose connections and then assassinate their character. For example, he will take John Doe and then find out that John Doe's sister once worked for Hillary Clinton. John Doe lived with his sister during that timeframe and paid rent to his sister who made donations to Hillary Clinton the baby killer. Therefore John Doe is a Clinton supporter and a baby killer and is now in the crosshairs of Hartline. Twisted huh?

I do not like Hillary's politics and I am pro-life, but I would never agree with most of Hartline's illogical conclusion and rationale. Mr. Hartline is a professed Christian and no one else is a TRUE Christian unless they see everything his way. He thinks he is a saint doing God’s work on Earth.

In addition, he claims to have been cured of AIDS by Jesus for his good works after his life a crime and prison locked away in the prison’s mental hospital (he admits to it for a total of 15 years). Find me one legitimate doctor who will believe that someone has been cured of AIDS. While I do believe that a higher power can perform miracles, I seriously doubt this is one of them.

So while he throws stoned from his own little glass house, he intentionally sets out to damage other people's lives without any regard to the facts. There are numerous people who have been wrongfully maligned because of these tactics.

I'm curious said:

I think I see your point here. So Hartline's actions basically embarrass the Republican party in which he professes to be part of?

Dr. Psychology said:

My first posting on this story tells the story about Hartline in three simple words - Grandiose Delusional Disorder. He is not the Republican party anymore than Bush or Schwarzenegger. Neither does Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton represents all African Americans.

Does Hartley or Aguirre's actions embarrass the Democratic party? Probably not since they are one of many Democrats and no one person represents everyone. That is the purpose of the party - to represent the group.

Moving On said:

The bigger question for THIS POST, do Francis' actions embarrass the Republican Party and himself?

I'm curious said:

hhhmmm.

If Hartline is but merely a nusance. Just ignore him. However I do see an opportunity for Sanders to score some political points here and simultaneously distancing the party as well as himself from Hartline.

If Francis is trying to make Sanders out to be a party hack. Then Sanders should perhaps endorse one of the democrat candidates for district 3. Considering his position on one of the key social issues of that district. There could be some benefit for both candidates here.

There would be precident for this. Dick Murphy endorsed Scott Peters over Phil Thalhiemer in 04. I still don't undertand why. ;)

It all goes back to the mail piece. Thank you Dr. Psychology for giving me the means to make my point.

District 3 voter said:

I agree. I would love to see Sanders endorse Todd Gloria seeing as how I voted over him, but alas... perhaps for the run-off.

Interesting info though, apparently it seems that there are some voters who are voting for James Hartline via John Hartley. I guess thats what happens when you run against someone with a name close enouhg to yours, lol.

Yes, I agree Hartline is irrelevant. As much as I would like to ignore him, the best way to kill a cockroach is to squish it. And the only way to do that is to ban Hartline from RC.

So, Mighty Thor, the blog-world needs your help! Use thy Hammer of Justice and cast Saint James into the Village of the Banned.

Felons for Hartline said:

I'm enjoying seeing James Hartline -- my favorite felon -- post so many long, rambling postings on this site. It means he's at his home (he can't be at his "office" like normal people since he lives off the public dole) rather than out campaigning where he might actually do any damage.


I'm curious said:

It just occured to me. Doesn't Mayor Sanders live within District 3? So if he endorses a candidate in District 3 it would not only be as the Mayor of San Diego but also as a consituent. Imagine a neigborhood walker getting an endorsement card like that. Then let the candidate media opperation run with it. Eventually a reporter would ask Sanders about it. He could humbly say

"My position as Mayor had nothing to do with me endorsing this candidate. As an informed voter and as a resident in District 3. I personally feel that X candiate would serve my neighbors best interests." Then jokingly say with a smile on his face. "If he does not, then I'm certain that the Mayor of San Diego will hold him personally accountable."

Anonymous said:

That'd be nice. Then when Hartline screams bloody murder because he didn't get Sanders' endorsement, the mayor can tell him to f-off. :)

I'm curious said:

If Hartline screams bloody murder, or makes threats. Imagine how it would be covered in the media if Sanders gets temporary reissuance of his badge, and he himself makes the arrest of Mr.Hartline.

When top dogs are seen doing the work of the detectives or beat cops. The PR can be positive. Case in point. LA Police Chief Daryl Gates making the arrest of those involved in the Reginald Denny beating. For those of you who werent alive at the time. The beating was the first act of brutality by thugs shown live by news helicopters in what would become the LA riots.

Bobby Sands was elected to parliment in prison. Perhaps Hartline can be elected to city council from the mental hospital unit at Mercy. Where he can be mentored by Ronald Reagan, Dwight Eisenhower and Abraham Lincoln who now apparently looks like an emaciated pale middle aged woman with unkept hair. But seriously Scitzophrenia affects many people and can be very tough on families. I appoligize if I offend anybody with Schitzophrenia who wish not to be associated with Mr. Hartline.

I also appologize if I crossed the line here. I was on a role and I couldn't resist.

Schizophrenics Against Hartline said:

I'm a mental patient suffering from schizophernia and I am against the candidacy of Mr. Hartline. He doesn't represent my values, or Harvey's values. Harvey is my best friend.

We endorse against Mr. Hartline.

-- Schizophernics Against Hartline.

People for the Ethical Treatment of Pookas said:

Schizophrenics Against Hartline, as a member of PETP I hope you are taking good care of your pooka. If we hear otherwise we will be forced to place a visit and check on the welfare of your pooka!

I'm curious said:

My God what have I started here. All I wanted to do was help Jerry Sanders out with a few outside of the box ideas, and remind the people about the Peters-Murphy link. Now I have created a thread to make humorous attacks on Mr. Hartline.

But there is a fact: many seriously insane people don't know they are insane and out of touch with reality. I don't think Mr. Hartline understands that you need either to be well financed or have party support to win.
I'm sure somebody who reads these blogs would be willing to pay for his trip, a wodden crate speakers and a microphone in Hyde Park so he can preach his message, where he can play with his own kind.

Hey Hartline: wanna go to London,huh. That's a good boy. We're going to go to London to play in the park, and see the Queen. But make sure he has his rabies shots in case he bites somebody.

Go for it guys, vent, make jokes: lets have some fun here.

Anonymous said:

I also don't think Mr. Hartline realizes that he won't get elected to the Central Committee. Nor, will he become the new Chairman of the County Party.

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