200 Signatures: Breeding Competition or Folly?
Posted by: Barry Jantz | 03/25/2008 9:43 AM

In the wake of incumbent school board Trustee Luis Acle's failure to qualify for the ballot in San Diego Unified (the FlashReport and Red County SD broke the story two Sundays ago and your extremely humble blogger alerted the "mainstream" media to the development), folks were scrambling in the days to follow for an alternative candidate.
Last week, it was confirmed what I already knew. Charles Wesley Kim Jr. had filed his nominating papers by the extended deadline, but even he guessed he didn't get enough valid signatures submitted. The resulting U-T story caused some to ask "Keystone Cops?," given the fact that both an incumbent and a new candidate had failed to qualify, thus leaving labor organizer Richard Barrera as the lone, unopposed heir to Acle's seat.
Please bear with me on this one.
The 200 signature requirement in the City of San Diego is unique, a rather high threshold. In most other races, even the biggies, it's typically 20, sometimes zero. High water mark or not, it would seem that with 30 days or so - such as sitting Trustee Acle was provided - one would plan their time accordingly and get it done, maybe even early enough to check the validity of the signatures at the Registrar's office (anyone can do it) before submission, especially if they need to go out and wrangle a few more. For whatever reason, Acle didn't.
That said, the very reasons for the State law's resulting five day extension to enter the race for non-incumbents - when the incumbent doesn't file or qualify themselves - is to allow appropriate competition, to provide voters more than one choice, and especially to give the proverbial new blood a chance to run when they otherwise would not have considered it against a sitting officeholder.
The five day extension is in calendar days, not government working days. The deadline for incumbents and challengers is typically a Friday at 5 p.m., exactly 88 days before the election. If the incumbent doesn't make it, the deadline for other takers is the next Wednesday at 5 p.m. - the five days.
Now, think about this. If the incumbent doesn't walk into the Registrar's office by the Friday deadline and the print media just happen to pick up the story immediately on Saturday (unlikely), a prospective candidate would still not be able to get their nominating forms until government goes back to work first thing Monday morning at the earliest, less than three days before the extended deadline.
Yet, say the incumbent does walk in by the original Friday deadline, as in Luis Acle's case. Well, the Registrar may check the signatures and ascertain the incumbent didn't qualify after hours on Friday or over the weekend - if we are lucky. The San Diego office did. But without the media - or a humble blogger - having access to inside phone lines and being interested enough to check over the weekend, no one is going to know of the situation until Monday when the Registrar's office posts the information to their website. At earliest, the mainstream print media has the story Tuesday morning, with the deadline to submit signatures the next day at 5 p.m.
Uhhh, and that's not counting the time needed for a prospective candidate to check with the spouse and think about things a bit...maybe talk to a priest and a shrink.
Ok, so in about two weekdays - but to dispel the naysayers, let's call it three - the average person has to decide to run, get to the Registrar, collect 200 signatures of qualified voters, and return them? Is it do-able? Of course. Especially if one is rich or unemployed, or can just walk away from their work for a couple of days. Elective office is supposed to be about the average person representing their fellow citizens, is it not? Don't even begin to say that the political parties or the unions should have the time to mobilize volunteers to collect signatures for the candidate.
An argument can be made that the uniquely high 200 signature requirement in San Diego city (for school board and city council seats, as I understand it) is fine during the usual 30-day nomination period, but a complete antithesis to competition when the incumbent doesn't qualify. It goes against the grain of the very reason the five-day extension exists in the first place.
Yet, what politician is going to have the guts to stand up and propose any kind of change?
In the case of "last man standing " Barrera, the lone candidate as the result of incumbent Acle's flub and Kim's lack of time, good for him. He went out and collected his 200 signatures during the 30 days, all with the intent of challenging Acle. Kudos to him for doing his work. One might ask why he should be penalized for doing what he needed to do. Yet, again, that misses the very point of the five day extension in the law. Even he was anticipating taking on a sitting officeholder, not getting a free ride.
So, I ask again. Anyone have the guts to propose an alternative in the law -- for future races -- that makes sense given the spirit of the five-day rule? Anyone? Email me here and I'll let the poli-blogosphere know.


in one day it's possible for one person to gather at least 20 signatures, maybe only most do 10, but definately 20 is doable.
so how come with the crack team from the local gop doing their last minute blitz for kim wasn't able to get 200? even the lure of pizza and beer wasn't enough to get this group to be able to achieve anything? crikky, 10 people could have driven to 20 houses, 20 people could have driven to 10 houses, shake it up, come on after all they do have this information available to them. lame lame lame
I'm the last one to apologize for the county party, they have a lot of issues. But having gathered signitures before, its not as easy as it sounds.
What happens when you go to 20 homes and those people aren't home, or they moved, or they don't understand what your doing and slam the door in your face. You just wasted several hours and maybe even a day.
You have to go to 400 doors, and hope you get 250-300 signitures, so that 200 will be valid. Its not easy and to come that close running a 48 hour drill, i'd say that was impressive.
My crew could have done that in a weekend. By the way, has anybody heard from Moir or Nathan? I still haven't been paid on registrations they promised me.
Whitty:
Essential point. Kim didn't have the weekend. The five days, although counting the weekend, cannot be used to collect signatures in the typical scenario I have outlined.
Would someone tell me why Whitty is using this vehicle to collect on an alleged debt?
Barry
Its really not that difficult to do. Every professional signature gatherer has their own secret techniques for getting high volume. and most of these "carnies" don't give out their secrets out unless you have something to give them. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Personally I could probably gather 200 signatures with near 100% validity under ideal circumstances in a single day. Beat that Whity! But I don't have the time to do it.
A secret techniques? I can tell you their secret techniques - just lie and tell the voter whatever will make them sign the petition. Few people actually read the fine print and trust what the signature gatherer tells them. Stand out in front of a major department store (make sure it draws primarily from the district) and then just start telling people it is a petition for a candidate that wants to throw away the key for child molesters (it doesn't matter that they are running for school board).
Once you have about 400 signatures, you go to the ROV and verify on your own that you have 200+ valid signatures.
Real tough, it does not take a rocket scientist. In fact most of those paid guys are one day away from being homeless which is why they get paid every 2-3 days instead of once every two weeks.
true
That many petitioners are "plasma doners" but then there are guys with college degrees trying to just earn a living working sometimes working a second job during a tough economy. But its important to note that in this country their vote and signature on a petition is worth no less than yours. So you might want to drop the elitist additude. Thank you.