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Finkelstein Angered By Hardball Question, Calls for Military Destruction of Israel

Posted by: Jonathan Constantine | 05/10/2008 11:08 AM

My late mother used to exclaim, "if everyone who claims to be a Holocaust survivor actually is one, who did Hitler kill?" - Norman G. Finkelstein

Watch the video, Finkelstein clearly miffed after being embarrassed in front of sympathetic crowd of washed up CAIR officials and imports from the local mosque. (Video Courtesy of the UCI Muslim Student Union)


 
I documented this incident in my post yesterday.

Though Finkelstein stated that dissenting opinions were welcome, he did not make clear the condition that he would only answer softball questions. So when I took him to task on his speculated appearance to the Holocaust Denial Conference in Tehran, he became especially indignant. But why? After all, he was happy to express solidarity with Iran's proxy Hezbollah. Instead of directly answering the question or even addressing the controversy, Finkelstein tried to berate me with the same ad hominem attacks he usually directed to his former academic counterparts. At first he tried to disarm the question by calling my motives filthy, but as I pressed his answer was finally no, invoking his parent's experience in the Nazi Holocaust. Finkelstein was obviously uncomfortable with the question because it put him on the other side of the ledger from an overly sympathetic audience of Muslim radicals and Holocaust deniers. This is hardly the mark of an honest educator, and yet another example of why he was disgraced from academia in the first place.
Moreover, in response to my first question regarding a January 2008 interview when he called for Israel's destruction, listen to the video as Finkelstein argues that Israel needs to suffer the same defeat as Japan and Germany after World War II (before an enthusiastic crowd of Muslim radicals), calling the peaceful democracy a "marauding and "lunatic" state to a group of largely rubber stamping ignoramuses.
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Comments

Fenrir said:

The man who is embarassed in that video is yourself.

Don't try and hide that you were humiliated in front of 550 people.

FINK the cowardly liar said:

Finkelstein looks like a cowardly moron. He is a liar- we all know he attended the Holocaust denial conference. He is a filty scumbag loser.

Finkelstein's parents would turn over in their grave if they saw what he was doing. Spit.

Loserstein said:

Great questions Jonathan. Finkelstein may have had supporters in the audience, but he is made the fool in front of a much large online audience.

as-Saraii said:

It is entertaining to see your futile attempts to show yourself as a hardball questioner. No matter how hard you try to twist the facts, the truth remains, you are still a close-minded prick with filthy aspirations. From now on, you are to be known as Mr. Filthy. This nickname perfectly suits your character.

FU said:

Ass-Saraii, you are the filthy cunt. Are you mad that Jonathan exposed MSU members for the drunk fucks they are?

The Doctor said:

Looks like the Nazis killed the wrong Finkelstein during WW2.

Allyson Rowen Taylor said:

Norman is a sick pathetic man, who has lost any crediabilty in the academic community. He is a toy for the MSA which pays him a whopping two hundred bucks an appearance. He is a loser, and does not deserve any recognition.

Great job, Jonathan.

Mohammed the Dog said:

Good work, Jonathan, this is the way to pin the ears of the jackass named Norm Finklestin back. Too bad Fenrir and As-Sarai of the family Al-Kalbi Arabi don't see it that way, though. Maybe they were too busy conducting honour-killings on their daughters or beheading homosexuals to know that the World is tired of their crap.

Exit question for As-Sarai and Fenrir: Are you aware that Salahuddin was an Armenian Kurd who hated Arabs.

411 said:

Finkelstein is lying scum. Israel as a "Militaristic State" like Germany is a huge stretch of the imagination.

Germany, from Bismarck up to Hitler wasn't surrounded by countries which together offensively attacked it numerous times just for existing, , and swore every single day to annihilate Germany off the face of the earth. Israelis live with that daily.

as-Saraii said:

Your responses serve to prove that you are nothing but a group of vulgar, close minded jackals who feed on filth and regurgitated Zionist propaganda. It seems your only purpose in life is to sow hatred and intolerance.
You are the direct descendants of KKK, Nazis and the rest of the scum that sought to impose their white supremacy on the rest of the world. But guess what, times have changed. Just like the old, pagan Rome had succumbed to the pure faith in one God, where all are equal and strife to be better, so will this new, but still pagan, Rome succumb to the belief in one God, that will liberate and enlighten my brothers and sisters in humanity.
Your reactionary blog filled with lies and hatred will not, cannot prevent our liberation. You are the outdated levies of New Orleans and we are the hurricane that will sweep you away, and your squeals will be drowned in the roar of the billions demanding justice and equality.
As for the picture of my brothers, well, your worldview is poisoned with hate, and you can never comprehend the true meaning of brotherhood. Your life is too lonely and void of human warmth. You seek filth, while we search for beauty; you brand people as extremists, illegals, while we see everyone as humans deserving the best in this world and in the Hereafter. We are the humanists, and you are an intolerant beasts.

Jonathan Constantine said:

Dear As-Saraii

Thank you so much for driving traffic to my blog. Keep the videos coming, as well as your inane and apocalyptic responses. You've given me another record day.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/29909_Finkelstein_in_His_Element_at_UC_Irvine/comments/#ctop

Sincerely,

JC

Robbins Mitchell said:

Far from being 'the hurricane that will sweep you away',As-Sarii is simply part of one gigantic theological fart that stinks up the joint....her idea of 'beauty' is watching a young girl get killed for daring to love someone who doesn't care to stick his ass in the air like some submissive bitch waiting to be mounted by an alpha male in order to honor a mass murdering pedophile....if she wants to live in her midieval little girl dreams about a 'world caliphate' she is free to do so....and I am free to bury her in a pigskin when she reaches her premature demise

Render said:

as-Sarii you will forever be known as a whore of Satan.

=

Jonathan, we're here.

ARMORED
LIZARDS,
R

wanglese said:

As-Saraii

Thank you for putting your position so clearly. It's good that the more intelligent of the community will forever see you for what you are: a moron who beleives in a mythical past claiphate that was a mess, did everything it could to supress freedom and knowledge. It was defeated. It will be defeated again, and once again people like you will blame everyone else for your failings, instead of looking at yourselves and figuring out the problem isn't the rest of the world, it is you.

as-Saraii said:

Dear Constantine,

you welcome. You are incredibly stupid for thinking that Internet traffic creates victories. Real victories are made in a real life, in our case it's the campus, where you and your fascist sympathizers are suffering one defeat after another. The public whipping you have suffered last Wednesday is one of them, and the coming week with God's help will be another victory for us. So continue your blogging and your sniffing around, while we will continue educating campus and improving the world.
Blog away, but keep in mind that you are despised by every sane person on campus.


As-Saraii, are you saying that our stomachs will roast in Hell?

Victoria said:

Blog away, but keep in mind that you are despised by every sane person on campus.

Given the level of anti-semitism exposed on campuses today, this Catholic would be proud to be so despised by hate-mongers.

What a joke -- campus victories. The last time a campus victory meant anything, it was getting Falafel Tuesdays instituted.

Alexander said:

If I recall correctly, for an analogy to be logically valid the two things being compared must be similar enough to infer something about the former from the latter. Finkelstein dips into fallacious territory when he compares Israel's militarization with that of Germany p pre-1945. Something that makes the two things dissimilar enough to invalidate such an analogy is the fact that Germany was the aggressor while Israel is not. Germany's war was offensive, Israel's has been defensive.

It's also worth pointing out that the motives of Israel and Germany, the political systems, cultural beliefs, etc. are all so different you can't make any logically valid analogy with the two. It's the kind of argument I'd expect from the average person really, but not the kind of thing I expect from people who purport to be academic. From the former you can assume honest ignorance, but from the latter you can only assume a deliberate dishonesty.

Finkelswine is filth on stilts.

A very deluded hate-monger and a despicable creature. He is a traitor to our people and a tool for the Arabs. Disgusting!

Gary Rosen said:

"you are still a close-minded prick with filthy aspirations"

Very convincing argument, Ass-araii, undoubtedly representing the peak of your intellectual prowess. Did I get the hyphen right?

Vlad said:

"Real victories are made in a real life, in our case it's the campus, where you and your fascist sympathizers are suffering one defeat after another."

What would Muslims know about any type of victory? Unless you consider the brutalization of women a victory, Muslims have not had a victory since...come to think of it, the last time a Muslim had a victory over anyone, it was over other Muslims. Quite sad and pathetic, really. I suppose I would be seething with bitterness, and rage if I belonged to such an impotent group as well. Fortunately you will always produce children so you can strap bombs to them. Always the sign of an advanced, rational society. But, as I am sure Muslims will point out, this is all the fault of someone else.

As-Sarii's Mother said:

Beloved Son,

As a Mother's Day present, will you please stop wetting the bed?

Love,

Mama As-Saraii

Vlad said:

StinkyStein is an oven Jew if ever there was one.

Ass-Saraii, for the love of Allah, please shower! Does it say in the Koran that showering and bathing is a sin??? You people are dirty. You guys all stink like BO really really bad. Everyone is just too embarrassed to say anything. P-U!! And the fact that we can smell you from three counties away, yet you still refer to Jews as dirty shows your complete lack of sense of irony.

wahabicorridor said:

"Jonathan, we're here.

ARMORED
LIZARDS,
R
"

Indeed we are Render. Armored. And armed.

Nice work Jonathan.

Dr. Cruel said:

The anti-Israel crowd is comprised of two groups - fanatic Muslims who wish to subjugate or destroy any religious group different than theirs, and neo-Marxists, who wish to exploit religious and ethnic hatred to press forth their quasi-socialist, kleptocratic agenda. "Social justice" has nothing to do with it.

Armenians already know what happens when people like Finkelstein get their way. That's why we stick up for ourselves now - and because of it, at long last, we finally have our own country. Good on the Israelis too, for sticking up for themselves, and ensuring that their children and children's children do not grow up on bondage as dhimmi.

As for Finkelstein, he's simply a cynical businessman of the worst sort. There is no difference between him and a leader of the KKK, or Reverend Wright, or Louis Farrakhan, or Noam Chomsky, or any other punit who exploits racism, envy and hatred to wind up a crowd and earn a speaker's fee. I expect no more from him than I do from the likes of Michael Moore. Of course they are debased and foul, as are all charlatans.

Jonathan Constantine said:

Thanks Lizards! Much appreciated.

Mambo Bananpatch said:

Imagine these silly little kids like Vlad and Victoria believing that what happens "on campus" has some factual relationship to what happens in the real, grown-up world.

Poor little things, you're in for a hell of a shock when your parents' money runs out and you have to start thinking for yourselves. Good luck.

Just Anotehr Lizard said:

"You are incredibly stupid for thinking that Internet traffic creates victories. Real victories are made in a real life, in our case it's the campus"

Like... the DePaul campus? Where Fink's lack of scholarship (he's never published in a peer reviewed journal, even once), his nature as an habitual liar, and his tendency to engage in disgusting displays of malice and invective unbecoming of any scholar (ya know, like responding to a question by going into a fit and frothing about "filth"?)... caused the end of his vile little career? You mean, how Fink was denied tenure and was revealed to be a failure on pretty much every single academic level? You mean, those sort of victories on campus?

But no, even those victories don't matter all that much, as your little 'organization' has shown, hate sells, and genocidal anti-Israeli bigotry is quite popular among many freaks on the left. But despite the parlor pinks with big mouths, your dreams of genocide haven't yet come to pass. So sad.

"you are still a close-minded prick with filthy aspirations. From now on, you are to be known as Mr. Filthy."
"You are nothing but a group of vulgar, close minded jackals"

You're a college student, eh?
You haven't learned the words "hypocrisy" or "irony", have ya?
Time to ask for your tuition back.

By the way, Fink was absolutely humiliated by responding to a question with an immediate ad hominem fallacy. And, because you probably don't know what one of those is, an AH fallacy is not simply insulting someone, that's why we have a word for that, that happens to be "insult". No, an AH fallacy is one when -avoids- answering/addressing a question and -instead- simply makes personal attacks. For instance, when faced with the clear fact that he supports the genocidal, theocratic terrorist proxy organization of Iran, Hezbollah, and thus helps along Iran's aims... he instead deflects the discussion away from his own actions by having a Tourettes fit, and babbling about something being "filthy". That, and pretending that he can read minds, always good for a laugh.

But, of course, Fink, much like yourself, proved himself to be a Janus-faced scumbag, as he called the question and its motivation "filthy", and then went on to support the kind of military defeat that would lead to the genocide and ethnic cleansing of the state of Israel.
What, did the fool think nobody would catch that? Oh, I know, the violent-minded genocidal freaks in the audience cheered him on, but I mean, people who aren't sociopathic?

"where all are equal and strife to be better"

Something tells me you're not bright enough to realize that little slip o' the tongue, are ya?
Hint: google "dictionary, strife".

"Your reactionary blog filled with lies and hatred will not, cannot prevent our liberation. "

If by "liberation", you mean a terrorist-genocidal state on Gaza and the West Bank, then no, you are correct, a blog cannot stop that. The IDF will.

Kurtlane said:

Filthyswine is not irrational, nor is he necessarily hateful. He is like a spokesman for a tobacco company who denies that smoking is harmful because his money and fame depend on it. He has found a pretty niche for himself, a sinecure, where he can make his money and earn prestige among the naive, leftist, and Jew-hating. by demonizing their own people or attacking the only Jewish country. And always covers himself with "I am Jewish myself" and "my parents went through Holocaust."

Anonymous said:

I can't wait until slime like As-Saraii try to pull their terrorist supporting Muslim supremacy off campus. They will get their asses handed to them. That will be a fun day.

Don Meaker said:

Interesting how US intelligence is in error on WMDs in Iraq, but now becomes inerrant when it suggests that Iran has stopped weapons design.

The good news: Germany had the US and Britain as enemies. The Germans lost 15 millions after WWII through intentional starvation after the war was over, due to Soviet polies which evicted Germans from eastern territories.

If the Arabs won against Israel, the men would be murdered tomorrow, the women would be murdered after they were sufficiently raped. The children would be murdered if male, if they had any pubic hair. The women would be raped if they had pubic hair.

Finklestein is proof that smart people can have very wrong ideas.

geneman said:

Muslims/Arabs do dishonor to themselves by listening to this Jewish lunatic. He was probably a product (like some Arabs) of too much inbreeding, leading to mental illness.

See "Genetic Disorders in the Arab world" at http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/333/7573/831

This guy is reminescent of another idiot in the news as of late...Obama's fiery preacher "Reverend" Wright. The only thing I see with them is a absolute knowledge of what they must do to exploit the sheep for their own personal power and wealth. What good is a black man who preaches love, forgiveness and faith? How does this enrich me? When do I get mine? Or, What is the use of a "good jew" who believes in Israel and her right to not only exist but also to be free from terror?....Why should I be a nobody, just another jewish professor? It is better that I should hate the white man and the jewish state, better to be something special, something not "normal" something to make the sheep take a second look, perhaps did a little deeper into their pockets, someone who stands apart and is admired?
Comics for the comical

David said:

Let me understand this:

Iran: we will destroy Israel
Israel: we are very concerned about Iran
Finkelstein: Israeli warmongers!

This guy is a worse debater than even that loon David Duke

Thank you for the post.

Brian Cobbs said:

Great work Jonathan!

- Yet another Lizard who has your back

Hey Al Siri - does it bug you that the GDP of Israel is more than 6 times that of any Arab nation, and if you exclude the luck of oil, close to 12 times greater? Face it. The Jews are simply better than you. This can be empirically observed.

Now go take a bath.

Yaakov Sullivan said:

Finkelstein is a fine scholar and a humanitarian. As a Jewish Catholic I bless this man. May Jesus bless him with lots of force and let him be the Messiah for Jews and Gentiles. Amen.

david said:

Half the people clapping at Finkelstein's response themselves deny the Holocaust ever happenned. Welcome to the loony tune world of Israel hatred.

carlos said:

Finkelstoodge,

Israel will not be a better country if it suffers a defeat. Unlike Germany's defeat, Israel will cease to exist as a country.

Emanuel said:

"That's like asking me if I beat my wife."

Half the people clapping to Fink's response probably beat their wives.

Carlos said:

Finkledope's comparison between Israel's militarization and Germany's is like comparing a police officer being armed and a criminal being armed. Both are armed, but the purpose those guns serve and the people who wield them are world's apart. Too logical for an "intellectual" like Finkledope to grasp, I know.

David said:

>>>As a Jewish Catholic I bless this man. May Jesus bless him with lots of force and let him be the Messiah for Jews and Gentiles. Amen.

As a Jew and/or a Catholic you have the temerity to call this man the Messiah, with a capital "M"? Have you no reverence? You should be ASHAMED of yourself. Nobody who would write such a thing deserves to call himself either a jew or catholic.

Better Red Than Dead said:

as-Saraii, somwhere in the middle east there's a suicide belt with your name on it. Do everyone a favor, take it for a test drive.

Gary Rosen said:

"Finkelstein's parents would turn over in their grave if they saw what he was doing."

Maybe not. I've heard that they weren't Holocaust "victims", but collaborators. If so, then the apple didn't fall far from the tree.

Chase said:

"Brian Cobbs said:

Hey Al Siri - does it bug you that the GDP of Israel is more than 6 times that of any Arab nation, and if you exclude the luck of oil, close to 12 times greater? Face it. The Jews are simply better than you. This can be empirically observed."

Wrong my man.

GDP of Israel: $169,847 billion

GDP of Saudi Arabia: $527,921 billion
GDP of Algeria: $211,682 billion
GDP of Egypt: $367,366

Source: World Bank (2007)

Per Capita Income of Israel: $25,799

Per Capita Income of Qatar: $80,870
Per Capita Income of Kuwait: $39,306
Per Capita Income of UAE: $37,293
Per Capita Income of Bahrain: $32,064

Source: IMF (2007)

People who support Israel are not the sharpest.

LG said:

Finkelstein is a great speaker and your silly question does not reduce his image and credibility. History will testify to the greatness of this man who stood up against a dreadful fraud when all the others chickened out or submitted like the sheep.

Fenrir said:

LOL @ Chase

Thank you sir

I think people will find this hard to believe, but my loyalties don't lie with Arab countries. My loyalties lie more with America than it does with any Arab country. I was born American, and i am American, why would i be loyal to the country my parents came from?

Many people reading this blog seem to have many misconceptions on Islam and should speak to someone knowledgeable before they make hasty generalizations.

Mohammed the Dog said:

FEI Yaakov Sullivan aka Yaquob Suleiman is a resident Anti-Israel Jew-Hater on the HaAretz Website. He also espouses the same kind of bile on YNET & Jpost.com. Demonizing Israel is his profession, and he goes on other blogs like this one trying to sound like a "moderate", which he is not. He needs desperately to work on his goosestep, though.

Mohammed the Dog said:

As the Kalbi-Arabi have such higher GDP, perhaps they can do the following:

* Compensate the 900,000 jews ejected from Arab countries after 1948.

* Support their 'brothers', the Phakestinians, in establishing themselves in their true homeland in Arabia and Jordan, and ween them off the International Aid spicket that has enriched Suha Arafat, Fatah, and Hamas.

* Return the lands taken from Berbers, Copts, Kurds, Africans, not to mention the conquered Hindu, Buddhist, and Christian communities throughout the Muslim world. This would assume that Arabs and Muslims are aware of their own blood-thirsty, land-hungry ways, which they have a way of projecting onto other peoples. If all these folks knew what Israel and Spain know of Muslims, the World would be a safer place.

Of course, all of the above occurring would be a greater miracle, that of Muslims and Arabs doing the right thing.

E. Nough said:

Chase writes:

"People who support Israel are not the sharpest."

Those are big stones you're throwing around, Chase! Just watch out for shards of glass as your house comes down around you.

Brian Cobbs misspoke slightly: Israel's PER-CAPITA GDP is substantially higher than even the most developed of its Arab neighbors. The numbers, for your displeasure and ululation:

ISRAEL: $28,800
Egypt: 5,400
Syria: 4,300
Jordan: 4,700
And lets hear it for those winners in Yemen, coming in at...
Yemen: 2,400

But hey, those are countries without oil. (Unlike those oil-rich Israelis... oh wait.) Well, let's take some exciting Arab autocracies with oil:

Saudi Arabia: $20,700. More respectable than Yemen or Egypt, for sure -- but even Albania managed that. You'd think a country that's practically drowning in oil could do better. Of course, you'd also expect them to have a literacy rate higher than 80%. You'd be wrong.

Kuwait and the other Gulf potentates do make out like bandits -- as Mr. Cobbs said, mostly due to the luck of sitting on deposits of oil they didn't find, couldn't extract, and wouldn't know how to use without the civilized world giving them a hand fifty years ago. That is, unless I missed some notable technological or intellectual achievements from Kuwait recently. ...No, that's not it.

It comes down to this: Israelis give us advanced technology from cancer research to agriculture to the latest microchips. Arab countries either sponsor suicide bombers or pump our gas. But hey, at least they win beauty contests. Well, their camels do.

Just Another Lizard said:

@chase

"People who support Israel are not the sharpest."


Interesting.
So one person makes a slight error, and you then generalize to all of an entire group. Hmmmm... I wish there was a word that described forming negative stereotypes about an entire group based on a few individuals in it.
Someone should really invent a word like that.

TrueSoldier said:

as-Saraii said:

"Real victories are made in a real life, in our case it's the campus"

Wow campus is real life to you, boy do you have another thing coming once you leave the sheltered existence known as campus and actually make it into the real world.

Judith said:

The problem with Jews like finkielstein is that once they go down the self-hatred path to nowhere, they cannot stop; it's like a disease, like someone who knows smoking is bad and could kill themselves, but they cannot stop the self-destruction. He is a typical self-hating Jew who has internalized antisemitism and wants desperately to show the goyim that he's a "good" Jew, hence he has to trash the modern manifestation of Jewish success (i.e. ISRAEL). He can't stop now so he'll only get worse and worse the more he is attacked by pro-Israelis to convince himself that he is right. It's so sad to see people who think they have no right to exist, only the enemy. I feel sorry for him, and I'm sure when his time comes to part the earthly part of human existence he will deeply regret going against his own people and G-d.
We should all pitty him, as he is an example of the weekest kind of human.

FASTAC 6 said:

When people hold a systematic set of beliefs that are inconsistent with objective reality, we refer to them as delusional.
Finkelstein has firmly secured his position as the Tony Zirkle of Academia. Perhaps next year he'll be the featured speaker at Hitler's birthday party in Chicago.

narciso said:

There were 11 million jews in Europe in 1933. There were 6 million less in 1945. A good deal of that was due to the Russian ariving from the East (auschwitz, most notably)but American liberations at
Dora and Sachsenhausen certainly played a part. Among those who survived was my neigbor who spent three years at Dachau and has the
tattoed number to prove it. Try telling her, what she saw was a figment of her imagination. Mind you had Father of Palestinian nationalism, Haj Amin Husseini, had his way, the number would be considerably lower.

JohnD said:

I think it would be good if Norman Finkelstien suffered a devastating defeat. Say in a suicide bombing by one of his mentors in Syria. Or perhaps a beheading by one of his mentors in Iraq. Its a shame that decent human beings are the ones killed in these suicide attacks and not a piece of garbage like this finkelstien and his comrades in arms.

Sam B. said:

The company a man (or woman) keeps--neo-Nazis, Jew hating Muslims, the David Dukes, The Institute for Historical Review--do we need to know more? The man needed psychiatric help years ago. Hitler would have praised him--before shipping him off to Auschwitz. He's now a dime-a-doz. in US hating, Jew hating "academia." I got out just before the rot set in (retired)'79

Chase said:

Slight correction to my earlier post:


"Brian Cobbs said:

Hey Al Siri - does it bug you that the GDP of Israel is more than 6 times that of any Arab nation, and if you exclude the luck of oil, close to 12 times greater? Face it. The Jews are simply better than you. This can be empirically observed."

Wrong my man.

GDP of Israel: $169.847 billion

GDP of Saudi Arabia: $527.921 billion
GDP of Algeria: $211.682 billion
GDP of Egypt: $367.366

Source: World Bank (2007)

Per Capita Income of Israel: $25,799

Per Capita Income of Qatar: $80,870
Per Capita Income of Kuwait: $39,306
Per Capita Income of UAE: $37,293
Per Capita Income of Bahrain: $32,064

Source: IMF (2007)

People who support Israel are not the sharpest.

Chase said:

Actually the total GDP and per capita of Israel is much lower. Remember Israel receives more foreign aid (per capita) than any other nation on Earth.

Also not all the wealth of Arab nations derives from oil. Natural Gas and petrochemicals add significantly to the income of Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, etc.

Also the UAE takes in billions annually from construction and banking/financial services.

Also Yemen is NOT a neighbor of Israel. Check your facts E. Nough before you wreck yourself (like your argument).

Take care everyone :)

E. Nough said:

It's ironic that you should tell me to check my facts, Chase. Leaving aside the argument of whether Yemen is Israel's neighbor, foreign aid constitutes a trivial amount of Israel's GDP -- less than 2%, to be exact. Unlike the Arab basketcases around it, most of Israel's GDP is earned.

And wow, not only do rich Arab countries export oil that they didn't find or extract, they also manage to sell natural gas (that they didn't find or extract) and petrochemicals (made by foreign firms and mostly foreign labor)? Well, that truly schooled me. I yield to your superior analytical skills -- truly, the Arab world is a hotbed of economic progress and intellectual excellence.

I'll give credit to the UAE: their leadership had the foresight to establish a modern, cosmopolitan, distinctly un-Arab society that has allowed others to come and build a successful economy -- at least in Dubai and Abu Dhabi. But not so much the natives in other emirates. Which is why their literacy rate is not much better than Saudi's. And for all their success, 40% of GDP is still from oil and gas output (not found by them, etc.).

Apologists for Arabs aren't the sharpest, to borrow a phrase.

Chase said:

Still a few IQ points over apologists for Jews though.

E. Nough said:

Wow, Chase: graduating from facile argument to complete non-factuals. (And, ahem, "apologists for Jews"? I thought this was all about Israel. I guess the mask slipped.)

Thanks for discrediting your cause. Happy Naqba.

as-Saraii said:

It is flattering to see that my badly articulated comment has generated so much second-rate, hate-filled trash. I have no time for sparring with the gang of supremacist and social rejects that you are, there is plenty to do beside wasting time on blogs.
However, I am obliged to respond to Urban Outfitter, who asked if you think he is going to rot in hell.
This is between you and your Creator, and I have no right or need to speculate where you will go. May Allah guide you.

Mark Berlin said:

I watched the video it did not seem to me that Finkelstein was"clearly miffed" or "embarrassed". It seemed like he was offended by the question and gave an answer that reflected his annoyance. Nevertheless, it seemed like he responded as if he'd been asked similar questions before, hardly "obviously uncomfortable with the question".

E. Nough said:

If only we could be as impervious to Arab suicide bombs as As-Saraii is to irony.

A Muslim accusing others of being "supremacist." A poster who introduces himself with "you are still a close-minded prick with filthy aspirations" calling others on "second-rate, hate-filled trash." I mean, come on: this has to be self-parody.

Considering the incredible achievements of Islam, however, I must admit that "May Allah guide you" is a pretty good curse.

X Marks the Spot said:

If E.Nough is a student at UCI i highly recommend him/her taking a class in Logic/Argument construction.

Especially considering that E.Nough has been consistently owned by poster "Chase".

Mohammed the Dog said:

It is enough for me! To As-Saraii, Chase, and X, I declare Fatwa against you! You are filthy pigs!

Ululuuluuluuluuluuluuluuluuluuluh!

(see? everybody can be a Prophet of Muhammad, penis-butter-upon-him...)

Moses the Pig said:

Right back at you Zionazi's.

"The character of Moses, as stated in the Bible, is the most horrid that can be imagined. If those accounts be true, he was the wretch that first began and carried on wars on the score or on the pretence of religion; and under that mask, or that infatuation, committed the most unexampled atrocities that are to be found in the history of any nation".
- Thomas Paine

Mohammed the Dog said:

Cool! Now we have made-up quotes and total feigned obliviousness of MUSLIM terrorist attacks that occur daily throughout the world.

Yeah, THAT'll win the Jihad...

See? No outrage here, no marching in the streets wanting to behead anyone. Civilized Behavior, and keeping perpsective on things...it's so easy, even a Muslim can do it.

And thanks for proving my point, too.

Moses the Pig said:

"Mohammed the Dog said:

Cool! Now we have made-up quotes and total feigned obliviousness of MUSLIM terrorist attacks that occur daily throughout the world."


"The character of Moses, as stated in the Bible, is the most horrid that can be imagined. If those accounts be true, he was the wretch that first began and carried on wars on the score or on the pretence of religion; and under that mask, or that infatuation, committed the most unexampled atrocities that are to be found in the history of any nation".
- Thomas Paine in The Age of Reason, Part I, published 1794

Reading is Cool. You should try it.


Anonymous said:

"...wars on the score or on the pretence of religion; and under that mask, or that infatuation, committed the most unexampled atrocities that are to be found in the history of any nation..."

Apparently, you read, but do not understand; typical.

The best example of what is referred to in your 'maybe, maybe not' quote in a general sense is the Koran. You know, the "holy" book that says kill the Jews, kill the non-believers, kill the Christians, kill, Kill, KILL! And is acted on in exactly this form by Muslims, every day, every week, every month, and every year since day one of the Muslim calendar. Since you are all-wise, perhaps you can explain to the class what the bombings in India that occurred a couple of days ago that killed over 50 Indians had to do with Phakestine. Was this part of the Jihad to destroy Israel and the Jews? Is the killing of Lebanese Sunnis by Iranian-trained Hezbollah thugs part of the Jihad to destroy Israel and the Jews? How about the killing of Benazir Bhutto? So much blood being spilt by such blood-thirsty people, and none of them Jews! How do you explain this paradox to yourselves? But, PLEASE, don't let this stop you! Carry on, you're doing a magnificent job of your own repression, nobody need assist! Need an extra box of ammo?

You sound angry; would it make you feel better if I declared Fatwa against myself? Maybe against all of the people here? Some of them MUST be Jews, you know...

Mohammed the Dog said:

"...wars on the score or on the pretence of religion; and under that mask, or that infatuation, committed the most unexampled atrocities that are to be found in the history of any nation..."

Apparently, you read, but do not understand; typical.

The best example of what is referred to in your 'maybe, maybe not' quote in a general sense is the Koran. You know, the "holy" book that says kill the Jews, kill the non-believers, kill the Christians, kill, Kill, KILL! And is acted on in exactly this form by Muslims, every day, every week, every month, and every year since day one of the Muslim calendar. Since you are all-wise, perhaps you can explain to the class what the bombings in India that occurred a couple of days ago that killed over 50 Indians had to do with Phakestine. Was this part of the Jihad to destroy Israel and the Jews? Is the killing of Lebanese Sunnis by Iranian-trained Hezbollah thugs part of the Jihad to destroy Israel and the Jews? How about the killing of Benazir Bhutto? So much blood being spilt by such blood-thirsty people, and none of them Jews! How do you explain this paradox to yourselves? But, PLEASE, don't let this stop you! Carry on, you're doing a magnificent job of your own repression, nobody need assist! Need an extra box of ammo?

You sound angry; would it make you feel better if I declared Fatwa against myself? Maybe against all of the people here? Some of them MUST be Jews, you know...

Mohammed the Dog said:

Please ignore the double-post.

Stompy Hell Lizard said:

@Chase

"Still a few IQ points over apologists for Jews though."

No no, you're playing the game all wrong. Virulent racists who take their racism out on Israel are supposed to claim that they only hate "Zionists", and when their racism is uncovered, protest about the all powerful "Zionist Lobby" that controls all media and discussion. Whinge about how nobody can, ever, criticize Israel, even a little, without being called an anti-Semite. Claim that your political position is reasonable and is being demonized by the actions of the evil Zionists.

It totally ruins the game if you come right out and reveal yourself to be an anti-Semite.
So please, next time, pretend that you really hate "Zionists" not Jews.

@Moses the Pig

"Right back at you Zionazi's."

Oooooh, burn.
Obviously the most robust civil society in the entire Middle East, the strongest democracy with universal citizenship for all minorities, religious freedom and which has attempted to make peace with its genocidal neighbors for more than 60 years now are the real Nazis... while the Palestinians, whose early leadership allied with the Nazis and, in fact, helped design and implement the Final Solution? They're the victims in all this.
http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_mandate_grand_mufti.php

Ho ho, what a wit you are.
Alleging that Jews who are uppity enough to resist being pushed into the sea are Nazis, while those who openly preach genocide, even today, even to children, aint.
http://www.pmw.org.il/

"Thomas Paine in The Age of Reason, Part I, published 1794"


Ooooooh, snap!
A fictional character is a Bronze Age religious document was not a nice guy (in Paine's view, whatever he's actually going on about is anybody's guess).
In your twisted little brain, I guess that means something bad about Jews, eh?

"Reading is Cool. You should try it."

Thinking is even cooler.
(As is not capitalizing a standard adjective while you're trying to talk about the importance of reading)

Mohammed the Dog said:

"Stompy Hell Lizard said:
A fictional character is a Bronze Age religious document..."

You have taken Musa (PBUH) in jest! A FATWA upon you! I keeeel you! O, Muslimin, arise! Hassaaaaan, Chop!

Ululuuluuluuluuluuluuluuluuluuluh!

Where are the Buddhist Infidel statues in Afghanistan, we must blow them up!

oh...the Taliban have done so, already. I'm so...jealous!

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