Welcome To Irvinistan
Posted by: Jonathan Constantine & Reut R. Cohen | 05/18/2008 12:24 PM
Our non-Muslim friends they got you all thinking that this Islamic revival is something that you should fear. That's propaganda!
Ali also made some inane and apocalyptic assertions about the fate of America and Israel:
In order for people to live like human beings America must fall as an empire and America is coming down. When you put the Israeli flag up next to the American flag, what it means for many of us, you will fall just like that empire is going to fall.
While covering Amir Abdel-Malik Ali's lecture at the flag polls, school administrators (Dean Sally Peterson pictured below) were busy making sure student journalists were in compliance with the fundamental tenets of Sharia law, essentially enforcing the MSU's own personal jihad against the 1st Amendment.
If you don't remember in May 2007, I (along with my brother) was harassed out of an
auditorium for simply recording a lecture by Amir Abdel Malik-Ali. This came to
no surprise as the University has a history of allowing MSU members to police
their own events. Fortunately,
California Assemblyman Chuck Devore was able to convince UCI Chancellor Michael
Drake to reverse the campus taping policy.
However, equally unfortunate is the administration's unwillingness to fully enforce this rule. UCI Police will either stand idly while intimidation occurs, and administrators continue efforts to censor.
Accordingly, when MSU member Jow Haider (pictured above) noticed our gender neutral policy in our coverage of keffiyeh wearing activists from the Muslim Student Union, he became visibly angered and demanded that Dean Sally Peterson stop us from practicing our press freedoms. Aware of these rights, we plainly refused this order and continued:
What followed Ali's speech is particular striking. Surrounded by students, the Oakland Imam left the flag polls and ascended up the stairs to ring road. A woman, who later identified herself as a Palestinian, then began to argue with Ali in her native Arabic.
Yet, for all his grandstanding as a moral authority on Islam, he couldn't understand the original script of the "Holy Book." So continuing the conversation in his native English, she admonished him for polluting young minds on campus. Nodding and without a cogent and decipherable answer, he walked away. After Ali broke through the crowd, President Omar Zarka and the "brothers and sisters MSU" formed two-lines and began exclaiming variations of familiar battle cries for the destruction of the Israeli state:
Hey Hey, Ho Ho, the State of Israel Has got to go!/ the occupation has got to go!As we continued filming and capturing stills, the level of hostility escalated among MSU members. Below is Reut Cohen's eyewitness account of the MSU's willingness to threaten violence against my brother Emanuel, due in large part because they continually get passes from the administration.
From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free!
Judaism yes, Zionism no!
Reut: I witnessed MSU thuggish actions firsthand when a male individual who was filming the hateful procession had at least three Muslim males charge at him for daring to film as the females from the group walked past.
One of the males, a student named Yasser Ahmed (pictured above) who purportedly threw a cinderblock at an FBI vehicle during May 2007, said to him: "You wanna get jacked! We can go get jacked right now! C'mon Emanuel, we've learned a lot about you lets go! Lets go get jacked, Lets go get jacked!"These hotheaded males from the Muslim Student Union claimed it was disrespectful to film them or put a camera too close to them. I was at the scene and could say for certain that Emanuel maintained a respectful distance and was merely filming as these students marched down ring road shouting "Judaism, yes. Zionism, no" at the top of their lungs.
I asked the officer how such behavior could be tolerated on a campus. I also stated that the MSU has the right to freedom of speech, which includes hosting hate mongers like Amir Abdel Malik Ali. They do not, however, have the right to assault individuals who choose to film or protest at their events. The officer asked me if I witnessed the incident and I said that I did. He didn't want to take a statement from me and told Emanuel that he now had statements from both him and the male from the MSU.
Case closed.
Interestingly enough a Christian preacher on campus, Michael Venyah, also had his rights violated and the cops on campus chose to do nothing. This preacher, who believes that all people must accept Jesus in order to get into heaven, began preaching about the prophet Mohammad and his crimes. Evidently MSU members didn't like hearing what he had to say and opted for charging up to him and running into him. This was obviously assault. The cops present did nothing and Edgar Dormitorio, the Dean of Judicial Affairs, suggested that Michael should leave.
That sounds fair, doesn't it? Amir Abdel Malik Ali spewed his genocidal thoughts for an hour on campus and was allowed the freedom of speech to do so. But a preacher who offended Muslims wasn't granted the same rights and the campus police wouldn't stop the males with the MSU from running into him deliberately.
Freedom of speech and expression has been monopolized by one group at UC Irvine. MSU organizers have taken it upon themselves to restrict the freedoms of others on the university campus and have managed to avoid significant criticism from the administration.
Jonathan: In what is evidently a violation of administrative code, the MSU finally gathered into a crowd in the middle of ring road to hear once last breath of motivation from Ali.
UC Irvine has become a base of Palestinian support....that means that whatever they try to do will backfire on them.....in spite of the odds, that we are outnumbered.....we are still winning.
Takbir! Allahu Akbar! Takbir! Allahu Akbar!
Wow! Guess I left too early. Unfortunately, I had a class to teach.
Seriously though, these young folks don't realize that they are further alienating themselves from American society. They can get away with it on a college campus, but not too many other places.
I disagree with the MSU on one important point.
Zionism No. Judaism Hell No.
Judaism is a mental disorder. There is nothing good about the religion/cult.
Judaism is just a bunch of mumbo-jumbo crap from the Levant masquerading as a religion.
Just as Jewish culture is a hybrid/bastardization of various other cultural aspects stolen by the Jews, so it is also with their vile ideology of Judaism.
Their vile hatred and filth continues to be tolerated by the spineless leadership at UCI. I hope everyone can now see how being politically correct causes so many problems...
This stuff is anti-American and should be snuffed out permanently. Wake up America!
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"Islam is my Mental Disorder said:
I disagree with the MSU on one important point.
Zionism No. Judaism Hell No.
Judaism is a mental disorder. There is nothing good about the religion/cult.
Judaism is just a bunch of mumbo-jumbo crap from the Levant masquerading as a religion.
Just as Jewish culture is a hybrid/bastardization of various other cultural aspects stolen by the Jews, so it is also with their vile ideology of Judaism."
You sure do have a mind of a one-track camel's ass! We will try to remember this the next time there's an earthquake or tsunami in a Muslim nation. We'll just let you die, 'kay? After all, we worship life, while you are in live with death. Enjoy your 72 Angry Virginians, please!
BTW What has Dar Al-Islam brought the world? Jihad? AIDS? Suicide-Bomber Vests? Honor-Killings?
"Ominous battle cry"?
That is rather ignorant of you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takbir
This phrase is recited by Muslims in numerous different situations. For example, when they are happy or wish to express approval, when an animal is slaughtered in a halaal fashion, when they want to praise a speaker, DURING BATTLES, and even times of extreme stress or euphoria.
I found this on the like you sent, thanks for the definition Byran Garcia.
Judaism is a Mental Disorder:
I'm sorry to hear about your apparent autism.
Israel has done worlds more for the world in 60 years than what any Muslim nation has ever done in the history of its existence. What have they done besides kill people and make life harder for everyone? You lemmings demand our blood and whenever there's a natural disaster or genocide (Sudan, earthquakes), we're among the first to help. We provide asylum for Muslims who are persecuted by OTHER Muslims. We've invented Instant Messaging, cell phones, drip irrigation technology, Facebook, and Google. To name a few. What have your Muslim nations done? They just kill people and then kill some more.
You want to talk about cults? Look at what Islam has become. You're promised 72 virgins for dying. Sexist. Perverted. Corrupted. Suicidal. Do everyone a favor and go earn your "72 virgins".
Also, the MSU is the reason why so many people hate Islam on our campus. Why? Uhhhhhhh, maybe because all they do is chant "Fuck Israel" instead of actually doing anything related to Islam.
If anything, it's good that they keep doing these events and convincing people how incredibly fucking batshit crazy they are.
"'This phrase is recited by Muslims in numerous different situations. For example, when they are happy or wish to express approval, when an animal is slaughtered in a halaal fashion, when they want to praise a speaker, DURING BATTLES, and even times of extreme stress or euphoria.'
I found this on the like you sent, thanks for the definition Byran Garcia."
So what evidence do you or the author(s) of this article have to show that it is being used as a battle cry in this instance? As a neutral observer, I've only ever seen the MSU use it to praise a speaker. Like a Muslim form of applause.
Well, because the speaker is talking about 'struggle' and 'fighting' before they yell... and usually, a battle is preceded by a speech, especially and ancient or medieval one.
Plus, these bloodthirsty bastards cant think to approve or disapprove of anything after they hear a speech; they approve before the speech starts.
Well, because the speaker is talking about 'struggle' and 'fighting' before they yell... and usually, a battle is preceded by a speech, especially and ancient or medieval one.
Plus, these bloodthirsty bastards cant think to approve or disapprove of anything after they hear a speech; they approve before the speech starts.
Wow Bryan Garcia. You just questioned the authenticity of your own source of information.
If the MSU wants to dress up like a bunch of junior Hizbollah thugs and act like thugs, we must make sure their actions are made known to the public. They are only further removing themselves from American society.
Reut,
My posting on the exchange with Kennedy has been posted to the Chicago Post-Tribune blog page thanks to Roger gardner of radarsite. You can see at radarsite or-http:post-trib.com/news/blogentries/index.html?
gary