IF THESE PEOPLE ARE SO ANTI-IMPERIALIST, WHY ARE THEY SENDING THEIR CHILDREN BY THE DROVES, SUPPORTED BY U.S. TAXPAYERS DOLLARS IN THE FORM OF FINANCIAL SUPPORT PACKAGES TO GET THEIR EDUCATION AT UCI, TO TAKE IT BACK AND MAKE BETTER BOMBS TO BLOW UP OUR SERVICE MEN? DID YOU KNOW THAT UCI HAS THE LARGEST NUMBER OF FOREIGN STUDENTS ON ANY UC CAMPUS? DID YOU KNOW THAT 90% OF THEM ARE SUPPORTED BY FELLOWSHIP FUNDING, OR ARE PAID AS GRADUATE STUDENTS ON CONTRACTS AND GRANTS SUPPLIED BY THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT, SUCH AS THE NATIONAL SCIENCE FOUNDATION; NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF HEALTH, THE US ARMY (DARPA); AIR FORCE, ETC?

AMAZING GALL IF YOU ASK ME AS THEY ENJOY THE HOSPITALITY AND FREE EDUCATION OF THE AMERICANS THAT THEY CAN MARCH IN PROTEST AGAINST ANYTHING THAT IS AMERICAN, INCLUDING THEIR MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT AMERICAN "IMPERIALISM".

SEND THEM ALL BACK TO THEIR HOME COUNTRIES AND LET THEM LIVE IN IGNORANCE.

Great. So the MSU and their anarchist student pals are dragging these two dopey "religious leaders" back to UCI yet again for another anti-America, anti-Israel and anti-Jewish hate fest, while the university officials hide under their desks. It appears from the schedule above that some UCI professors are even going to participate in this disgrace. Maybe UC Berkeley should send one of their asst deans down to Irvine to greet the rabble in "Solidarity".

Where in the Constitution does it require a university to provide a platform for purveyors of hatred?

gary fouse
adjunct teacher
UCI -Ext

Fouse - It's the First Amendment of the Constitution which prohibits a public university from discriminating against speech on the basis of its content.

The complaint against the MSU and other groups when the people this blog supports were organizing speeches and events was that they wanted to shut down free speech by their protests. When they have speeches, you are pressuring the university itself to restrict free speech. This is hypocritical and can only come from a place of intense ignorance about the Bill of Rights.

Todd,

1. We are allowed to document MSU events, that falls under the 1st.

2. Like the City of Berkeley, UC Irvine isn't entitled to federal funds if they encourage hate-speech. Nor are they entitled to the matriculation of students who would prefer to learn in a more advantageous environment.

Gallinger-

Your second paragraph is somewhat confusing, but I will try to respond anyway.

No one has dragged the MSU speakers off to jail for exercising their First Amendment rights, and I have never advocated that.

I do feel, however, that the university has no legal obligation to allow just anyone to enter their campus and start advocating hatred and violence against certain groups. For example, A. Malik Ali glorifies Palestinian suicide bombers ("Heroes") in Israel who are killing "Zionist Jews" as he calls them.

Would you allow the KKK or Neo Nazis to come onto a campus and advocate killing of certain groups of people, calling them derogatory names in the process?
What if the KKK spoke at UCI, insulting black people and justifying lynching? Is that ok with you? Do you think that black students should simply have to put up with that in the name of "free speech"? I don't.
Similarly, I don't see why Jewish students at UCI or any other university should have to attend school in such an atmosphere.

This is precisely the type of speech that paved the way for the Holocaust 60-70 years ago. Before the Nazis dragged the Jews off to the extermination camps, they spent years holding demonstrations and making speeches that demonized the Jews.

You and the academics at UCI can justify this nasty stuff all you want in the name of the First Amendment, but if, God forbid, we expereince a real tragedy at UCI, it is you folks who will be wringing your hands and asking, "how could this happen?"

To Gary - AMEN!!

It is time for an affirmative action program at the University of California, a program for diversity of thought. Let the Regents know we want the University of California to support real diversity!! We can't stop ignorant, hateful speech, but we have to be able to respond with the truth. Unfortunately, for the "factual relativists" in our University, there is no "truth" and "facts" are nothing more than tools to advance their agenda.

In the wake of the latest massacre of innocent Israeli civilians at the hands of a Palestinian terrorist, I think it is time that we as Americans, and, indeed, the rest of the civilized world come to some pretty hard conclusions about the Palestinians.

For decades now, the US has tried to achieve some sort of a diplomatic balance in the Middle East and achieve a peace between the Israelis and Palestinians. A noble goal, perhaps, but I don't think it is possible.

For all of my adult life, I have been reading about one Palestinian act of terror after another. There were the plane hijackings after the 1967 war. There was the Munich Olympics massacre. There were terror attacks on the Rome and Vienna airports, in which innocent Europeans were killed. There was the Achille Lauro boat hijacking in the 1980s in which Leon Klinghofer, an elderly American Jew in a wheelchair, was murdered and dumped overboard. Why was he singled out? Because he was an American Jew.

As the years passed,there were more plane hijackings, including one in Lenanon in which an American servicemen was killed in cold blood. There was the bombing of the American Embassy in Beirut and the Marine barracks in Lebanon.

In the past few years, we have witnessed the suicide bombings in Israel that have killed so many innocents on buses and in pizza parlors.

On 9-11, Palestinians danced in the streets, just as they are dancing in the streets at today's news of 8 seminary students being murdered in Israel.

In addition, Palestinians cannot even live peacefully with each other, as one faction kills the other over control of "Palestine".

I could write all night about the long list of senseless violent acts by Palestinians, and I would still leave out numerous outrages.

Tonight, I am asking myself- why does one American administration after another try so hard to bring about peace between Israel and people who do not want peace. The fact is that Palestinians do not want peace. They do not want a two-state solution. They want it all, and they want Israelis/Jews either killed or driven into the sea or exile. They, like their Arab brethren in neighboring lands, cannot accept the idea of a Jewish state in the region. What they want is for all of the area to become Palestine.

But if there is a two-state agreement, what kind of state would this Palestine be? A sovereign entity that will work to undermine its neighbor inch by inch? A state that will make deals and alliances with Iran, Libya and Syria? Will it be, in effect, a terrorist state that will conspire with America's enemies even while we pour in aid? I think the answer is clear.

The truth is that the Palestinians are no friends of ours, and we should stop pretending they are.

Sorry folks, you can call me a racist all you want, but I have concluded that these people are not capable of running a responsible and peaceful country. If I am proved wrong, I will apologize.

The truth is that the Middle East could have had two states back in 1948. That was the UN plan. It was rejected by the Arabs, who quickly went to war-and were defeated. They tried again in 1967 and 1973 and failed. So the Palestinians resort to killing innocents-women, old men and children. How courageous.

And what is the reaction of the World? The Europeans tremble in their boots, held hostage by their already volatile Muslim populations and their need for oil. The UN is openly hostile of Israel and condemns every act of self-defense or retaliation carried out by the Israelis. When Israel retaliates against this latest act of terror-as it will and should, the UN will pass another resolution condemning the Jewish state. To most of the Europeans and the UN, the Jews are always the "inconvenient people", standing in the way of friendly relations with the oil producing countries. Ironically, the Germans, given their unfortunate history, are probably Israel's best friend in Europe.

Here at home, we are allowing new generations of Muslim immigrants and their anti-American anarchist allies on college campuses to stir up racial hatred, not only against Israel, but against Jews-and against our own country as long as we support Israel's right to exist. On university campuses, Muslim Student groups hold regular rallies and bring in hate-filled speakers to denounce Israel, Jews and America, glorifying suicide bombers. My own campus at UC Irvine is a classic example. Just this week, the MSU is sponsoring yet another anti-Israel event with the usual suspects of radical speakers like Amir Abdel Malik Ali and Mohammed Al-Ali-documented anti-Semites. They are being joined in their tirades by a few radical professors. Meanwhile, the administration and faculty hide under their desks and talk about free speech-also taking verbal shots at those who dare to criticize.

So what do we do? Do we in the spirit of expediency, allow the Israeli people and nation to be thrown under the bus and ignore the murderous outrages? I say no.

It is time that the US, Europe and all nations who care about common decency and civilized behavior take a stand for Israel. No cause can justify the slaughter of innocents.

Personally, at this point, I don't care much what Israel does to protect its people against this wanton murder. I will support them. If and when the Isreali Defence Force succeeds in wiping out the terrorists, once and for all, I will be dancing in the street.

gary fouse
fousesquawk

Speaking Appearance by Matthias Kuentzel at UC-Irvine

Yesterday, I had the privilege of attending a lecture by Dr Matthias Kuentzel at the University of California at Irvine. Dr Kuentzel was invited to speak by the Scholars for Peace in the Middle East, a pro-Israel group. Dr Kuentzel is a member of the organization, as well as a research associate at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem. He is a German author and political scientist. He is the author of; Jihad and Jew Hatred-Islamism, Nazism, and the Roots of 9-11. In 2007, he was scheduled to give a speech at the University of Leeds (UK) on; Hitler's Legacy-Islamic Anti-Semitism in the Middle East. The university cancelled the event shortly before it was scheduled due to "security concerns" (actually, based on two letters sent to the university by Muslims protesting Dr Kuentzel's appearance.)

Dr Kuentzel began his lecture by describing the rejoicing that took place among Palestinians over the recent murder of 8 Jewish students. His thesis is that there is a nexus between Islamism and anti-Semitism. He described the birth of the Muslim Brotherhood in the 1920s as well as the activities and words of the Grand Mufti of Jereusalem, Muhammed Tahir Husseini, who was an ally of Hitler and actually lived in Berlin during the Third Reich. During those years, the Mufti participated in making anti-Jewish speeches that were broadcast into the Middle East from a radio station outside Berlin-broadcasts that were met with an enthusiastic reception.

Dr Kuentzel rejects the notion that anti-Zionism is separate from anti-Semitism. He described the situation of anti-Jewish feeling currently prevalent in the Middle East, describing the friendly reception he gets in the Middle East when people learn he is German, assuming he must be a Hitler-admirer.

In response to a question posed by me, he acknowledged that Germany's large Turkish population has become increasingly radical in the last few years in response to world events.

He also stated that the UN should act to outlaw suicide bombings, though he seemed less than optimistic about the world body's ability to have any real effect.

The audience for Dr Kuentzel's talk was small-about 20-25 people. I only knew or met a handful of the other attendees for the first time. Most were elderly and a few were retired professors.

Alarming as Dr Kuentzel's words were, it was refreshing to hear a sane voice coming out of Europe. I can't wait to get his book.

gary fouse
Adjunct teacher
UCI-Ext
fousesquawk