Tim Shaw is currently Bob Huff's DD and La Habra City Council candidate, not a Janet Nguyen staffer.

Tim Shaw was a Janet staffer.

Corrections Dept.:

I identified Tim as a "former" Janet staffer.

This was a no brainer. Congratulations Trung.

Janet still has short leash around "former staffer" Tim Shaw's neck and it might back fire against Tim in his bid for La Habra city council seat. Currently "fresh" Tim is meddling with poison ivy leaves!

Whom are the candidates running against Tim? We need to support them! Can someone post their names here?

Sure. There's 3 seats up this year in La Habra, with 2 incumbents and one open seat due to the death of councilman Steve Anderson. Incumbent Rose Espinoza (D), incumbent Tom Beamish (R), Tim Shaw (R), Michael Shapiro (R), Robert Ortega (R), Larry Dobkin (D), Daren Nigsarian (D), and Louie Contreras (I'm not sure of his party). Hope this helps!

By the way, I've probably talked to Janet 2 or 3 times in the last 8 months, and only for a few minutes each time. Not exactly a "short leash" in my book, but reality isn't always as exciting as conspiracy theories, are they?

I think it's funny that Tim Shaw had the nerve to get up there last night to try and give third party credibility to Andrew Do's conservatism. The same Tim Shaw that worked for traitor Schwarzznegger? The same Tim Shaw that worked for liberal Janet Nguyen? The same Tim Shaw who's running around the county trying to convince people that a sales tax in La Habra is a good idea? The same Tim Shaw who was the treasurer for a utility tax in La Habra last cycle?

The GOP needs to do a better job of vetting our candidates. For Tim to have the insolence to get up on stage and try to strengthen someone's conservative credentials when he himself has NONE, is an insult to every central committee member in that room. I don't know if Tim is trying to get the endorsement of the OCGOP, but if he is the endorsement committee better take a look at all these issues.

Sales tax??? Utilities tax??? WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING TIM?????

I posted that. Forgot to type in my name, so it popped up anonymous.

Thanks Tim Shaw for the quick info.
Tim, many candidates win or lose on their images to the public and your intervention in behalf of Janet on the Garden Grove city council race has "turned on" many central active business donor's concern and they will PLAY your game by being involved in your race at La Habra.

A few observations...

The Committee was right to resoundingly endorse Trung (At most there were 4 noes).

It was utterly disgraceful for Matt Harper, paid staffer of Janet Nguyen, and Tim Shaw, former paid staffer of Janet Nguyen, to pull Trung's name off the consent list and then speak against his endorsement. These two showed absolutely no objectivity as Central Committee Members as they obediently did the bidding of the dark queen of the 1st.

Valerie Dickenson, a close friend of the dark queen and an Endorsements Committee Member, deserves praise for putting the Party over politics in her vote to recommend Trung for endorsement over that of Andrew Do. I’m told it was evident she was hopeful Andrew Do could give her a reason to vote for him as she was obviously hesitant in her vote, but she did the right thing at the endorsements meeting and that’s all that matters (I did not see her in attendance last night).

Tim Whitacre did a masterful job in his speaking to the Committee as to why we should endorse Trung and what really was going on in the pulling of his name. Kermit Marsh skillfully batted clean up and hammered home some of the points Whitacre made as well as reiterating the exhaustive, thorough vetting of all three candidates at the endorsements meeting.

In the end, the resounding vote of the Central Committee sent a clear message to the dark queen and her worker bees: NONE OF YOUR PETTY GRUDGES AND VINDICTIVENESS WILL BE TOLERATED HERE!

It was crystal clear to me that a bylaw amendment is necessary to prevent any Central Committee Member who is a paid staffer or former staffer of an elected official to pull names off the consent list of someone who has, or may run against their boss.

Trung leads big in latest poll! Everyone in community hates Andrew and Janet. Just ask Supervisor Dina.

"The irony, as pointed out to me by an astute observer, was the argument made by Janetistas -- or Janetista, really -- was the same one presented by the Forces of Van during the Janet Nguyen OC GOP endorsement showdown: since there are more than one qualified GOP candidate running, the party should just stay out of it."

I don't buy this argument from Jubal. Trung and Janet had a 7 vote...ur I mean 3 vote loss/victory recount mess. That is the ultra close type of food fight the Central Committee should stay out of.

Weighing Trung's near decade long service and volunteering to the local party against Andrew Do's self-serving switch a few years ago to get a job isn't a close decision.

Comparing the two situations is not comparing apples to apples.

If we don't endorse longtime activists over RINO newcomers, why do we endorse Matt Harper over his GOP opponent?

I enjoyed Jubal's account of the meeting, but I disagree that their is any irony to be had.

I must have hurt someone's feeling from the Janet's camp but he deserves every ounce of it. Let the ball roll.

CRA Republican - you are the finest example of the Van Tran Machine we can observe. Conspiracy theories, THREATS, continuing the Van Tran Machine operation without even a hestitation to see what it has cost in credibility for yourself or for the Van Tran express. Kermit had a point, albiet mis-applied in this case; the continuing feud coming from your Van Tran Machine only fuels the fires of discontent. In the words of one sorry-assed American, "Why can't we all just get along" has no meaning to you. It is the Van Tran machine that continues its onslaught. The victims of it are assemblying, and I am sorry to say you are feeding this split.

I am glad the Janet people attempted, USING THE SAME ARGUMENT that VAN TRAN used - POINTING OUT how it didn't work for him when Janet got the endorsement; so it doesn't work for them either. But How many people has Van Tran's machine called and threatened now to get this endorsement? Ask Mimi Walters, ask others who were threatened that their opponents would be endorsed by Van Tran if they supported Janet Nguyen for the 1st District. And, sure enough, they were!

That was after Van Tran said if Janet won in June or November he would be behind her and SUPPORT her. He still carried out his threats of endorsing the opponents of those who supported Janet.

When the Party endorses someone who has sued to get the Supervisor seat that he lost; endorses someone who has "photoshopped" himself into pictures, I wonder just what it took to get that endorsement. Yes, maybe he has done alot for the Repulican Party, but then he did alot to perplex it also. Which weighs more? Obviously from last nights vote, he has been forgiven; but will he do other things to perplex the party? He seems like a loose cannon to me.

Tim Shaw is a friend of mine, so I thought I’d help you fill in some of the gaps in his resume you left off. He’s worked for Dana Rohrabacher, Tom Fuentes, Regnery Publishing (at the time they published Unfit for Command about John Kerry), and the Republican Party. He supported Bill Simon over Richard Riordan for governor in 2002, and he supported Tom McClintock for governor during the recall of 2003. He is active with the California Republican Assembly, the Family Action PAC, and the Orange County Young Republicans. He has been the precinct director for the GOP in La Habra over several election cycles. He currently serves as a local coordinator for the Yes on Prop 8 campaign (traditional marriage prop.). I heard on a statewide conference call with Victory 06 employees and Arnold’s campaign manager, Steve Schmidt, Tim asked Schmidt why Arnold hired Susan Kennedy as his Chief of Staff, whereupon Schmidt verbally ripped his head off! If you’ve been to his office in Assemblyman Huff’s office, you’ve seen it’s lined with pictures of Reagan and Rohrabacher. Now that’s a liberal record if I’ve ever seen one!

How can Tim push for tax increases in La Habra if his heros are Reagan and Dana?

I guess national security is why he admires these two.

Tim, thanks for your commercial spill but what were you doing at OC GOP last night?

Recommending Janet's staffer Andrew Do who is a democrat in heart and a notorious "carpet bagger"?

Can you still say "I don't know JJJanet" or how about just say " I will be back...as anon.for Janet"

Tim Shaw, your credibility is being jeopardized due to your employment relationship with Janet today. Oh, don't give me your "former" excuse stuff ......because no one is buying it!

Dana this, Simon that, blah blah blah.

Tim was the treasurer for Measure G, an utilities tax in the City of La Habra.

Tim is actively lobbying for the current proposal to raise sales taxes in the City of La Habra.

Tim's no conservative, no matter how you try to spin it.

Hey Tim, here's a tip: when you're running for city council as a conservative Republican, you should probably try to act like one.

I guess Tim Shaw has opened his own bag of garbage by teaming up with un ethical people.

Tim what were you thinking? You are a candidate to the city office in this November!

Someone says it was a BAD timing and others say it was a BAD fotune
but Tim Shaw needs to know he is under micro scope precision scrutiny now and he must LEARN to build bridges and not walls.

For all you conservatives let me remind you that you must support what is RIGHT, not just what is politically expedient. If your infrastructure is crumbling and you need to replace it, then you have to represent ALL the people and do what it takes to get it replaced, even if it is at a great risk of having your fellow conservative republicans label you as a "liberal". If you would rather have your water system fail, or your sewer system fail and then blame it on the entity for not taking better care of it, then that's pretty cowardly. I am not Tim Shaw I am not a Janet Staffer, I am not anyone's "hack". I am someone who has been there, and doesn't care to receive any more threats.

Cowardly Lion.

So there you have it folks! The official line from Tim's campaign:

"Yes I'm a RINO, yes I'm liberal, and yes I support tax increases, but you MUST vote for me, because if you don't then your infrastructure will fail and you'll have sewage in the streets!"

Pack it up Tim. Your campaign was over before it began.

TO "Tim's no conservative said":

Been playing twister too long guy/gal. This is supposed to be a "no spin zone" and I don't appreciate you taking my words, and I don't even KNOW Tim Shaw, and twisting them.

Tell me, did anyone ever expect Katrina to hit? Did anyone ever expect the Twin Towers to be taken to the ground? did anyone ever expect the water tower in the city of Westminister would fail and flood neighborhoods? No.

But if the Senate Committee and in particular John Kerry had listened to Oliver North, and if Bill Clinton had taken decisive action; we would NOT have had the twin towers taken to the ground.

If the Mayor of Louisana had gotten his levies repaired (infrastructure) it's possible that New Orleans would not have been flooded.

Take a thought here, if you can, and think about PREPARATION, RESERVE FUNDS, preparing for your future.

Do you know why 5 school districts in Orange County will have bond measures on the ballot in November? Because they haven't planned ahead. They spend millions of dollars, mortgage our schools and had no plan on how to keep their schools in shape. These school districts are a prime example of lack of planning. I don't think any of those bond measures should pass. The administrators need to plan better.

I don't know the story in LaHabra, and I've never met Tim Shaw, but I'll make it my business to do so today so I can know just what the heck they are doing there. Why do they need a tax? Do they need it ? What for?

Has anyone here even ASKED that?

You are taking us in a spin journey to New Orleans, New York and ....why not China?

Look up all these postings against Tim Shaw and they are universally upset over Tim's surprising support for Janet's staffer aka. carpet bagger candidate Andrew Do over popular Trung Nguyen, a GOP old timer with proven solid conservative record.

Tim Shaw also needs to seek for some friends... he has none in this blog. Maybe call up Janet's staffers?

CRA Republican:

CHILL. OUT.

I mean it. Tone it down. Now. I don't want to waste what little time I have editing commenting section rule-violating portions of your comments. If you cannot express yourself civilly,you re-consider posting comments here.

If you don't tone it down, I'll have to ban you.

I'm happy to share with any of you thoughtful public policy experts the research paper I wrote in graduate school outlining my arguments for eliminating the capital gains tax. I can also send you my paper on returning to a gold standard. Or perhaps you'd be interested in my writings about the virtues of a flat tax? If reading research papers isn't interesting to you, you can always enroll in the political science class I teach where I explain the Laffer Curve, the benefits of free trade, the problems with raising the minimum wage, and every other tenet of supply-side economics. Before enrolling, you can get a head start on the class by reading the textbook I assign, called "The Way the World Works" by Jude Wanniski. Of course, this is all contigent upon you guys actually wanting to learn about economics from a conservative point of view, and not being professional Janet haters.

Thank you Tim. Well Said. I don't know you but I'll be calling you soon. The "professional Janet Haters" have really gone overboard here. I'm glad CRA Republican has been asked to tone down by Jubal.

Thank you Jubal.

Tim, I am delighted you had a wonderful educational experience.

Do you still support Andrew Do for the GG city race?

Oh yes! "I don't know you...but I will be calling you soon"

Well it's perfectly OK to have a imagenary friends. What ever rocks his boat ... let Tim Shaw comfort himself.
How ever, shifting/dodging the real issue with his mere economical education background propaganda ...... is little shallow/immature and SAD. Poor Tim.

I am not a Janet hater but I like to encourage her to do the right things for our republican community.

CRA Republican "I am not a Janet hater.." Surely you jest. Even the most naive person on this blog knows you have denigrated that poor woman more than anyone, anywhere. It was actually the reason I started checking into her and found you to be so false in your accusations. You could go back for months on this blog and find comment after comment after comment (ad infinitum) that you have said relative to her for which there could be no other explanation. Get a grip on your own reality, if you have one.

Actually, Mr. Shaw has a point. If conservatives were forced to choose one tax and only one tax to provide revenue for government services, they would choose the sales tax. It's a consumption tax (really a transactional fee).

The problem is all of the other taxes, which I'm sure Mr. Shaw realizes and would like to see cut or eliminated. I commend him for this position. However, I would probably counsel him to tone down his support for ANY tax, because - as you can see from the comments to in this thread - fiscally-illiterate registered Republican Joe Schmoe doesn't understand what we're talking about.

Once again, the Trannies ("CRA Republican" et al) have let their rabid hatred of Janet Nguyen and her subordinates get in the way of rational thought.

Anon., the only reality is your red horned angel(?) Janet had sent her 2 staffers at OC GOP endorsement meeting only to oppose her PAST Supe seat competing candidate Trung Nguyen.

Gosh, as you have found out, Janet is very sweet and nice person.

CRA Republican. Apparently you have not taken the warning from Jubal to tone it down. Therefore I can only answer you with this; When the Trannies opposed Janet's endorsement were her opponents also referred to as "red horned angels" by you? Did you make any comments about those speaking up in opposition to her endorsement.
No. You didn't.

Hmmm "Rational thought" entails toning down and sugar coating the "tax increases"!.

Thanks alot for your new vocabulary word lesson " sales tax = transaction fee....either all of our republicans are STUPID or you must be a Sacramento Democrat!

Anon. I did not believe Janet had the right to her throne in first place with her dream team Dem. lawyers .....by forcing the recount of otherwise a legitimate election result.

Trung won in the original count remember?

The first count was sullied. You might recall that there were nearly 30 ballots cast with an X in a box next to a line with no ones name written on it. They were originally counted for Trung. They were thrown out, as they should have been.

I believe I wrote, "The problem is all of the other taxes, which I'm sure Mr. Shaw realizes and would like to see cut or eliminated." Did you not see that through all of your desperate rage?

The problem with the most recent State Budget proposal isn't the sales tax increase (though that is a problem given how large our state government already is), it's all of the other taxes.

I don't know how big the government is in the City of La Habra, but I don't think it's so big and there are that many other taxes that can be eliminated (otherwise we probably would have seen Shaw come out and oppose those).

I don't want to drag ourselves back to the past but Janet forced the election result by the few votes in her favor by the end of day.

You know how I feel about that event already...... did you ever think about how Trung have felt on this controversial decision?

Now let's arrive to the scene of GOP endorsement meeting held yesterday...the same Janet who have mustered the Supe seat away from Trung, sends her 2 staffers to block Trung's GOP endosement to the GG council seat race.

These 2 staffers representing Janet were Matt Harper and Tim Shaw.

Now rightfully people are upset with Janet and her fall guys for their unethical behaviors.

Hey CRA Republican, you need to chill out, like Jubal said.

As far as Tim Shaw is concerned, I'm gonna have to agree with the rest of the anon commenters in this thread. If we can't hold a conservative Republican responsible for standing against tax increases, then what do we have left? I haven't heard much about Tim Shaw except for the facts that were brought out in this thread, and I must say, I'm troubled. Unless Tim can prove to us Central Commitee Republicans that he really hasn't been involved in an utilities tax initiative and a sales tax inititative, then I'm sorry to say he won't have my support.

I'm tired of the same old "poor planning" excuse. A conservative Republican finds ways around taxes, not resort to them as soon as they have a chance to.

I'm glad Mr. Shaw is educated in economics. Thank you for sharing that information Tim. Now I just wish you would follow what you preach. Until you show me otherwise, my vote is a no on your endorsement, or any other RINO who thinks it's ok to give up on taxes in this state; the only issue we have left to win on.

Well you are right.... I still don't understand your supreme concept of sales tax being a "transaction fee". What about a REAL transaction fees we pay to the ATM card companies? A "doble flip fees"(sales transaction fee + ATM transaction fee)?

Spit your guts out and just say "let's get rid of the word "tax" and replace it with the tricky word "fees" so that dumb republicans can eat it and also pay for it with big smile!

TD -

Go back to college, please. And take an economics class while you're at it.

The sales tax is the fairest tax as it's only assessed on participants and it's assessed equally, no matter your income. That's why Dems hate it. It's a regressive tax, which has a greater impact on those of lesser financial means.

As I've now said twice, it's the OTHER taxes that are the problem (i.e. the progressive income tax, the regressive and repulsive corporate taxes, excise taxes, sin taxes, social security, etc.).

I'm not Tim Shaw. I don't give a hoot about his election. I care that there are economically-illiterate people using fallacious arguments in this thread.

And it's not about giving up on taxes in this state. If you read my previous posts, you'd see that I DO NOT support the State Budget proposal with a "temporary" sales tax increase. Though, I would say, of all the tax increases the Governor and his fellow Democrats could propose, it might be the best kind of tax (if one could say such a thing) from a conservative point of view.

I'm a staunch conservative. I'm not an anarchist. I believe government should exist. But I believe it should be the smallest, least intrusive government possible.

I think you need to go back to your high school class! Who in the right mind is favoring the sales tax increases right now when our state economy is in verge of entering the recession?

Our down sizing local merchants? Already annoyed consumers due to high gas prices?

You being the "smart e con artist" with new "fee" concept, why did our federal government had to send tax credit checks to the millions of households recenly?....... instead of raising taxes, I mean fees?
Answer: BAD ECONOMY!

I'm ceasing this discussion with you as you clearly cannot read.

WARNING TO OTHERS: CRA Republican is a dunce and all of his comments should be completely disregarded.

Can you read tax ...FEE ... incerases in horizon? No warning is necessary with this brain washed pro tax staffer!

Janet and Do very unopular in community. I endorse Trung.

Great! Tim Shaw has to weat for GOP endorsement with his pro tax record/doctrine..... and people are unhappy with Janet for playing dirty working behind the screen.

Oh, wait a minute! Janet also have to find her staffer Andrew Do a legitimate mailing address in the city GG before the election date in November! I must say Janet has both of her hands full.

Andrew Do owns a sandwich shop in Stanton and for a while his customers believed Do would run for the Stanton city council seat by using his business address. Andrew is better known in Satnton.

Remember that Councilman from La Habra Gomez asked for our support a few years ago? Now he is helping Tim Shaw and wants to raise taxes also. What is with these guys? How long do we have to put up with this nonsense?

They talk a good game and this is what we get? And Shaw works for Bob Huff???

"Between federal, state, and local taxes and fees, our citizens pay a substantial part of their incomes to the government. As a councilmember, I will fight to protect our taxpayers from having to shoulder an even heavier tax burden." Tim Shaw? Read it for yourself
http://www.smartvoter.org/2002/11/05/ca/or/vote/shaw_t/philosophy.html

I endorse Trung

Well it's clear now Tim Shaw won't get his GOP endorsement!

See "Taxing Tim Shaw" as he indicts himself on video tape as the tax and spend liberal of La Habra go to www.lahabrapost.com

Also, for those of you with no clue about La Habra, and by the looks of it thats most of ya, Jim Gomez is La Habra's Village Idiot! He has supported and voted for every tax ballot measure in the last 6 years.

Still, the OC GOP and other Republican groups have continued to support these RHINO's. Well, No More!

Councilman Steve Simonian, the biggest RHINO in La Habra, also supported every tax bill and he hosted the $1,000/plate fund raiser for the democrat liberal genius Daren Nigsarianfor city council!!!!! The same Idiot that Tim Shaw was the Treasurer for the Yes on G (utility tax) ballot measure defeated in 2005.

Maybe now, with bigger eyes watching, these Republican's (r) won't get anymore endorsements.