Then it can only be inferred that you support Steve Rocco :)

Pedroza is about to find out what happens when you lie and malign others on a regular basis. He will get absolutely slaughtered on election day - even if he was running against one of his paisanos goats. Heck, Pedroza even makes Steve Rocco look sane... Let the fun begin!

Lets see how he does on his financial disclosures as well! He's the first to jump all over others so lets examine them VERY carefully!

I'm often quick to point out that Art is wearing his tin foil hat when he spouts off about his various conspiracy theories and the evil Republican Machine. But when I read the quote above, I don't get the impression that Art is insinuating your endorsement. The way it reads to me, Art is just saying that even Bustamante's friends are disappointed in him.

I realize that you don't want to be a pawn in Art's political machinations but only Steve Rocco would seriously believe you're endorsing Art!!!

Bustamante could not have dreamt up two better candidates to run against than Pedroza and Rocco. He'll win in a walk.

Art's blog is full of this kind of dribble:

"Councilman xx may be involved in illegal drugs"
"Board member yy may be going to psych ward"
"Has council member zz done something illegal?"

No facts, no proof, no substance. Double meanings all over the place.

That is why his blog is a joke, read by people just wanting to see some imagination instead of facts. None of their bloggers is worth a wit, and everyone in OC politics knows this.

Take heart, Jubal. Art is desperate and his blog is going to turn into a bigger mockery in the next few months.

More political double-speak, from Pedroza's own biography:

"He graduated from Don Bosco Technical Institute and later attended U.C. L.A. and C.S.U.F. He graduated summa cum laude from the University of Phoenix, with a B.S. in Business Management and he completed an MBA in 2006, at the Keller Graduate University of Management."

Art -

You can't say you "attended" UCLA and Cal State Fullerton if you never graduated (unless you were a part of some selective academic fellowship, and I presume you weren't).

Does University of Phoenix even award academic honors, like summa cum laude?! I used the search function on Phoenix.edu and couldn't turn up anything.

Keller Graduate University = DeVry

If you do a Google Search, you'll find the only time "Keller Graduate University" is written as such is in your biography.

Misrepresenting your education, as a teacher, is a shame. Please, just stop. You appear desperate to appear more credentialed and intelligent than you really are.

Hey, I once got a burger at UCLA, does that mean I attended UCLA? Come to think of it, I also attended Oxford, Stanford and did some time at Harvard..........

I can do you one better, UCLA Burger:

I was a card carrying UCLA Alumni member for years, even though I never applied to UCLA and never took a class there.

Turns out, UCLA will let *anyone* join the alumni association, and members get to use the UCLA library, which I joined.

I wonder if Art ever got around to joining any of his alumni associations?

- tylerh,

member of UCLA alumni association
"Hook'em Horns!"

Much talking. Much innuendo. Little substance. Thank you all for showing your true colors so early in the election cycle.

You all back Bustamante because he's a Republican, and you know nothing about Art other than the fact that he has a propensity for smoking out bad government in satirical ways that sometimes necessarily offends. I'm willing to bet that very few of you commenting have ever even met him. You certainly don't know anything about him. You never gave him a chance. So much for an educated electorate.

Sure, he has a reputation for being a gadfly, and may even be a bit controversial, but what is wrong with that if it serves the common good? Unless corrupt forces in City Hall fear a risk of exposure, that is.

Art Pedroza isn't anything like Steve Rocco. He wants to put the people back in City Hall, which in a way he always has through his blog. What did Rocco ever do? He chose a fortuitous ballot title. Shrewd move, but that kind of stunt can't get him elected this time.

SMS

SMS - While I cannot speak for anyone else, I have met him (more then once) long before the juice and he was a jack ass then. He knows he's a jack ass and he likes the negative attention...he always has. SMS rember you are new here, and dont know him at all, cept the few months you have been blogging.

Now we know where the "spin" in Spinosa comes from.

I stopped reading here:

you know nothing about Art other than the fact that he has a propensity for smoking out

Art is only 41?! I guess all that negativity and lying has taken its toll on him.....

I'm sure Art told me he wrote for the school paper at UCI; wonder why that's not down there?

It was part of a mini debate we had over plagiarism.

Please. By all means guys, don't stop the empty hyperbole there. If that's the best you can do, we should easily sail into City Hall!

By all means, keep making my job easier.

And Flowerzzz -

'SMS rember you are new here, and dont know him at all, cept the few months you have been blogging.'

I'm not ignorant of the way Art used to be. I do my research, plus he doesn't try to hide it. Even Gustavo Arrelano, an OC liberal stalwart, has given Art credit for evolving his views over the last couple years.

Like I said, you guys aren't being fair.

SMS

Art has been attacking every single good OC GOP leaders.. often without any substance or facts. Hence he deserves all these beatings!

P.S For some reason "Art the slave" continues to kiss Janet Nguyen in the rear day and night..... absolutely weird.

I'm not ignorant of the way Art used to be.

Hey, McFly! Flowerszzz isn't talking about Art's party affiliation. She's talking about his personality and tactics. And those haven't changed.

You know as well as we do that Art lies, bends the truth, and launches really nasty, underhanded attacks on people, And the guy could care less if what he's saying isn't true. So don't come crying to us that poor Art is being treated unfairly. It's just karma, lady.

You can't say you "attended" UCLA and Cal State Fullerton if you never graduated

To be fair, one can. If you attended a school, you attended, whether or not you graduated. For example, I was a full time student at Cal State Fullerton for two years until I transferred to George Washington University. I didn't graduate from CSUF, but I definitely attended CSUF.

Pedrozabot -

You speak of karma. OK, fine, I'll grant you that he probably has a few unwanted returned favors coming his way, and I can accept that, but it's my job to protect him from them because I really think he's changed and he deserves a fair hearing-out.

I really feel it's my responsibility to balance his karma because Santa Ana deserves better than Busty and you all know it. What about Santa Ana's karma? Don't you think the city has had enough? You all bash Busty's opponents but the truth of the matter is that none of you can really defend his recent actions, and in contrast, Art's recent actions have been all for the people.

When I first came back into OC politics this past spring people were slinging similar allegations at me. They spoke of my being a 'loose cannon' and an 'attack dog.' And those are the nicer descriptions! Over time people realized that I have a commitment to the truth, even if it starts out as a rumor, but they give me the benefit of the doubt that I am looking for discussion about questionable topics as opposed to making allegations.

Why can't anyone here provide Art that same courtesy? Because he goes after your party? It's a non-partisan seat guys and it's ironic that the straw that broke the camel's back when Art finally decided to leave the GOP was its closed-mindedness and intolerance (traits that Janet Nguyen does not possess by the way).

Want to turn that reputation around? Then please give Art a chance. Like I said before: what have you got to lose? Carlos? Cry me a river; the GOP is better off without him.

SMS

Why can't anyone here provide Art that same courtesy?

Perhaps it's because Art doesn't extend that courtesy himself. He's vicious, careless and dishonest -- and he's unremorseful about it.

The rest of us in the OC blogosphere have been exposed to Art far longer than you, and the negative view of Art has nothing to do with him leaving the GOP. He behaved just as abysmally before that. Not being Carlos is hardly a reason to support Art.

SMS must be sharing Art's happy pills if she thinks he has changed. Maybe he has--but it is for the worse...

Sarah, Art has been employing dirty brutal tactics against hundreds of good innocent people and now he wants to run for the city office?

What a joke!

Hey Sarah, you're missing the point. Whether or not we're proud of Carlos Bustamante is irrelevant. Art Pedroza is a proven liar who has a hard time admitting it, even when facts fail him. As far as I'm concerned, the least egotistical liars in office, the better. So down with Art Pedroza.

Oh and Sarah...

"it's my job to protect him from them because I really think he's changed and he deserves a fair hearing-out"

He hasn't changed and he never will. The sooner you find out the better off you'll be.

'Not being Carlos is hardly a reason to support Art.'

We're aware of that. That's why, after mere days, he's already put up his website, had a fundraiser, and begun to articulate his campaign issues. We're extremely proactive and fighting for the people of Santa Ana, not special interests or party politics - that's Carlos' shtick.

These are good reasons to give Art a chance. I'm not asking you to support him Matt, but I know you that while I frustrate you sometimes, you do consider me to be a fair person, so I'm merely asking you to respond in kind and extend to Art the courtesy of a fair hearing.

I mean, there's a reason we call Carlos 'Busty' and even Art hasn't said something as boneheaded as he.

SMS

Wow. THREE comments while I wrote my last one.

To all of you: TRUST ME, I'm not trying to change any minds here. Clearly, you're all very upset with him.

What I AM asking is for you to give him a CHANCE. That's it. If you can't find it in your hearts to forgive, even if you don't want to forget, then frankly, that's on you, and it's a shame.

SMS

Sarah, as D'Anconia said, this is not about Carlos. This is about Art, and whether or not he's qualified to be a councilman. And that's something that goes beyond holding a fundraiser or putting forward ideas about stray sopping carts or "fighting for the people" rhetoric. It also has to do with character and temperament and how he treats people.

And I, for one, don't think Art is qualified.

Good luck trying to convince Santa Ana voters otherwise.

'It also has to do with character and temperament and how he treats people.'

I've never seen him mistreat anyone. The man is not his blog. I hate to bring myself into this again, but like I said: when I say controversial things, nobody thinks I'm crazy; they know I'm simply pointing out the crazier side of life. Art and I both like to have fun with the blog and we do a public service as we do so, so I still get the impression that your animus against Art is personal.

You don't like him. We get it. That hardly makes him unqualified. We're all just public figures trying to do our jobs when it really comes down to it.

Can you seriously argue that Art doesn't care about the people of Santa Ana? He intends to provide them an opportunity for an unprecedented level input with their local government through Orange Juice should he get elected. Bustamante's website is ranked over 7 million. So much for 'vision for tomorrow.'

SMS

LOL. You kill me, SMS.

Art craps all over everyone, but it's "on us" to make things right.

Carry on, sister.

"Can you seriously argue that Art doesn't care about the people of Santa Ana?"

Oh, please spare me! Saint Art cares only for himself. And you are wrong, the man IS his blog. If it's true that he is not that way in his personal life then he is the worst kind of coward there is--one whose attacks, most often based on rumors, innuendo and outright lies, are shielded by the relative safety of an internet site. My guess is if he was personally confronted with the full force of his targets' justifiable anger, he'd have to high-tail it to the nearest men's room to change his diaper...

SMS - make a deal....when he starts being fair then we'll be fair. How 'bout that. Quit fighting his battles btw....he's a big boy and is well capable of sticking up for himself.

I've never seen him mistreat anyone.

Then maybe you should start reading Orange Juice, Sarah. Art doesn't just disagree with people. He savages them, attacks their character, attacks them via their families, and wishes ill and personal misfortune to befall them.

The man is not his blog.

Really? Then why does he plaster the URL on his campaign site and fundraising solicitations? Tout his blogging as evidence he's qualified for office?

Scroll up this thread, Sarah: you say "He intends to provide them an opportunity for an unprecedented level input with their local government through Orange Juice should he get elected."

And yet, the man is not his blog.

Sarah, why are you wasting your energy/time defending Art Pedroza's dirty character?

People make mistakes but Art is bad from inside to outside and he doesn't have a repenting heart for being who he is.....a un salvageable worthless coward!

The day I would give any respect to Art is when he is truly "born again"!

Wow. Credit Art for bringing Republicans and Democrats together. I agree with the chracterizations of how Art treats anyone he disagrees with; he lacks the tempermant and skills required to govern. I don't find Art trustworthy.

Its one thing to debate and disagree on issues; its quite another to debase and degrade.

How's that Joe Dunn endorsement coming?

Dan, you forgot 'defame'

'Sarah, why are you wasting your energy/time defending Art Pedroza's dirty character?'

You're right. You guys are implacable. Frankly, when you get like this you prove Art right when he calls the GOP 'Talibani,' shilling the party line, carrying water for Busty no less. It's not Art's fault your party isn't offering better candidates. You guys disappoint me. I'm sorry, but I guess I gave you all too much credit again.

SMS

Sarah: You are either missing the point or trying to avoid it--this is not about politics as much as it is about Art's relentless bad form on every level. What makes all of this more pathetic is, now that Art and his fellow space cadets need something from the rest of us, you downplay his sociopathic behavior with thinly veneered Mea Culpas. They have a term for you all as you provide excuses for Art's bullying: enablers

Yee-ha! SMS downshifts into Pedroza-drive and lets the fact-free venom fly.

We are not worthy of Art! We are not worthy!

Pedrozabot -

No venom, no enabling; we just have a difference of opinion. We're going to campaign hard because we really want to give the people of Santa Ana their voice back. Let's just see what happens between now and November.

SMS

Sarah, you continue to play with dirty Art Pedroza and in due time you will regret it deeply!

My family and I all live in Santa Ana--have for many years--and there is no way any of us will be enabling Art to bring his particularly nasty form of 'help' to the city council.

you all think art's done damage through words, but carlos has done actual damage through his actions. this isn't a referendum on art, it's a referendum on carlos and other incumbents. i don't want him to have another term and art's a serious candidate and a conservative so why are we not helping him? if city hall actually did its job maybe art wouldn't be so upset about the way santa ana is heading.

**when I say controversial things, nobody thinks I'm crazy**

Actually, that's not true. A number of people think you're crazy. You're as thin-skinned as Art. And you're so self-important.

**Over time people realized that I have a commitment to the truth, even if it starts out as a rumor, but they give me the benefit of the doubt that I am looking for discussion about questionable topics as opposed to making allegations.**

Right, tell it to Commie Girl, Joe Dunn, theLibOC and Paul Lucas.

Sorry to burst Sarah's bubble but Arturo has done absolutely NOTHING FOR SANTA ANA. He's an armchair quarterback at best when he takes his meds on time.

Sarah, you are a leftest newcomer and still smitten with the "opportunity" Arturo has "given" you to be on his low-life blog. Once you start to disagree with him on things the honeymoon will be over and you will be cast aside for another ring kisser. Arturo has been an egotistical liar for many years; a bully with a blog. Lord knows many have tried to help him but sadly all the bad genes went his way...

Arturo has never walked one precinct for anybody including himself when he ran for school board and got trounced years ago. He will lie differently but the real activists in Santa Ana know better. Arturo is no activist; he's an attention seeker. He has a messiah-like complex and has always been very disingeneous. He is not trustworthy and will not hesitate to stab you in the back if he thinks you are looking better than he is in the minds of people around him. Not only does the O.C. Republican Party not want him; neither does the Democrat Party! His morphing from Rep to Dem is only because that's where he has found attention and back slaps for heading toward the looney left.

You'd think the Dem Party would welcome him yet you notice no welcome mat at their door. Why? His reputation preceeds him and the Dem leadership knows better than to encourage him to join up.

Yes, there are many issues with Bustamante and the whole "La Raza" council in Santa Ana, but to elect Pedroza to council would be like giving a lifetime supply of cocaine to an addict. We just can't afford that and must wait for the next election cycle for real change.

Come home, Arturo. Let's have some warm milk and cookies and put you to bed.

Is there anyone who doesn't think Commie Girl, Liberal OC and Paul Lucas deserved what they had coming to them? Plus Sarah never really went after Joe Dunn. She did you Repugs a favor. Anyone who knows her knows she has it together and really cares about making a difference.

Art is a blogger with a tabloid like blog.

His campaign manager has only ever had one political job in California. As a canvasser.

And a really funky MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/purplepagansarah

But maybe "I'm simply pointing out the crazier side of life."

Earth to Art? Earth to you. Do your research. Sarah has been working on campaigns since she was 12. So what if they weren't in Cali? And I've heard your rumor too. Funny you bring it up as an anon. Do you know you could be sued for a thing like that? I hope Sarah's not litigious.

art's a serious candidate and a conservative so why are we not helping him?

Then I'm Santa Claus.

Since when has Art been a conservative? Mr. Gay Marriage/massage parlors/make Santa Ana a sanctuary city?

That guy has been all over the ideological map for the last couple of years, and shows no signs of slowing down.

The sexual tension between Matt and Art is palpable! After reading all these comments, I must say this is the best political soap operas ever! We should call it, "As the OC turns!" or "All my bloggers".

What will happen tomorrow, folks? Will Matt continue to deny his undying affection for Art? Will Sarah Michelle Spinoza continue to come between Matt and Art's "love"? Tune in tomorrow as Chris Prevatt plots to arrange the gay marriage of Matt and Art without their knowledge or inclination! These two people deserve to be together!!!!!! (Sniffle, sniffle)

He's a Libertarian-leaning conservative. Sorry about that. But he's still better than Carlos Bustamante.

He's a Libertarian-leaning conservative.

Whatever you want to tell yourself. Art's blogging tells a different story, and it ain't a conservative one.

But he's still better than Carlos Bustamante.

Why trade a sometime liar for a compulsive liar? We want to trade up, not down.

Art Pedroza is a left leaning socialist.

Read his blog postings for last 2 years. Once he was defending Mexico as his own country!

Pedrozabot, who are you supporting then? I guess you're just screwed.

IN RESPONSE TO:

August 13, 2008 1:12 PM
cra republican said:
"Art has been attacking every single good OC GOP leaders.. often without any substance or facts. Hence he deserves all these beatings!

P.S For some reason "Art the slave" continues to kiss Janet Nguyen in the rear day and night..... absolutely weird."

PEOPLE IN GLASS HOUSES SHOULD NOT THROW STONES CRA (Z) REPULICAN

Dems deserved it a.k.a Sarah Michelle Spinosa,

"...Do you know you could be sued for a thing like that? I hope Sarah's not litigious."

Sue away, Pedroza clone. Your poor attempt at a pen name to support yourself and Pedroza is comical. ROFLMAO I would love to see any judge's reaction to your suit when he is presented with all of your postings and that of Pedroza as well. The judge will be the one laughing the loudest as he bounces you out of his courtroom!

McLovin it --
So is Art the bottom in this relationshp?

"Anyone who knows her (Sara) knows she has it together and really cares about making a difference."

Yes, just go to her MySpace page to see how together she is

"Do your research. Sarah has been working on campaigns since she was 12. So what if they weren't in Cali?"

She folds literature really well....

Oh really?, You didn't know Art is a known fugitive in our republican community?

We need to send Art back to his home on the other side of the border! His postings always depict americans as a bad people and he often preachs all mexican illegals are innocent victims.

Hey Art,
How are you going to chastize janet for taking money from Judy Ware?