Andrew Do Gives Martin Wisckol An Earful (Electronically Speaking)
Posted by: Jubal | 06/05/2008 6:05 PM
He recounts the interplay between himself and Andrew Do, Janet's Chief of Staff. Andre penned a self-described "diatribe" detailing the Team Janet's grievances against Martin's reporting:
martin,There's more. Much more. Read it be clicking here.since you protested about my characterization of your reporting as one-sided and cited two opinions vouching for the objectivity of your posting, I will only ask one rhetorical question and cite some facts that would put van tran's comments in proper perspective, read believability.
1. question: during this entire campaign season, say from 1/1/08 to today, how many times have you contacted me or Supervisor Nguyen to get her opinion or rendition of the facts in dispute or the political issue, especially those in Little Saigon, that was being discussed?
2. facts: it would help if you would post what really happened, as opposed to unverified statements communicated to you from only one source, which is van tran. keep in mind that the whole tenor of your posting relates to the benevolence on the part of van tran to "reach" out to Supervisor Nguyen, such as was promised by him at the central committee's endorsement meeting.
Andrew's e-mail reminds me of my 7 and 8 year old daughters when they get in a fight with each other. When I tell them to stop and ask them to apologize to each other, their first response is to protest all the mean things the other one did or said to them.
But they're little kids.
This is getting ridiculous. Van promised to congratulate Janet if she won, which she did in a very convincing way. Van called. It's Janet's turn to accept the olive branch and both of them find a way to work politely together to their mutual political benefit.
Mr. Ayer registered as a Republican to be electable in an interim election with no incumbents. He did...
Note to self: Never pick a fight with someone that buys ink by the barrel.
Jubal-
Your characterization of Andrew’s email is ridiculous. I didn’t find his self describe diatribe childish…quite the contrary. He gave Martin specific examples of where he felt Martin sided with Van and was biased in his coverage and Andrew’s recommendation of how to remedy it. He sounded more like a man that has had to hold his tongue for well over a year and now can speak.
As a supporter of Janet, I hope she doesn’t take the poisonous olive branch. Van has unmercifully committed every resource to destroying her personally and professionally and often using this medium. In fact, one of his lieutenants is on your blogpen with the name “tomahawk”. He is proud to tell you that he took that name because a “tomahawk” is a missal with a single target and once it reaches the target, it destroys it. –his own words.
I will continue to encourage Janet to run in 2010 for Congress. Van Tran is the DCCC’s wet dream of an opponent. If Van is the nominee, the DCCC will make sure every voter in the 47th Congressional District knows that Van married a woman that plead guilty to defrauding the government with an elaborate medi-cal scheme. And if you don’t believe me, just ask George Urch. 2010 is shaping up to be a pivotal year for Republicans nationally and it might be our best chance to finally defeat LS. I don’t want to waste it on a Republican candidate that is totally unelectable and not support the candidate that has demonstrated that she can raise the resources necessary to win and has appeal with cross-over voters.
Mark:
As an outsider, I can see that Andrew is writing from the perspective of a siege mentality that detects bias in every word choice and placement. Complaining that Van comments come before Janet comment in blog posts that are maybe four paragraphs long? Criticizing Van for calling to congratulate Janet after lunch instead of first thing in the morning?
Both sides need to step back and knock it off. If past grievances annd wounds are justification for continuing to tear at each other, then this brawl will never end.
Much of Janet's establishment supporters back her because she is the incumbent supervisor, because they are weary of Van's operation being antagonistic toward her, and they want an end to unproductive intra-party fights.
If Van extends the olive branch and she doesn't accept it, then who do they think is responsible for the keeping the war going?
Janet won. She'll score more points by being a magnanimous winner than a vindictive one.
As for Tomahawk, let's not forget who took out a full-page ad in a Viet newspaper attacking him. Very mature.
When did a Chief of Staff position for a County Supervisor become a entry level position?
Ignoring the email all itself, the punctuation errors by Andrew Do really do question whether Supervisor Nguyen wants her office to be taken seriously amongst the other professional Supervisor offices.
Do's whining is pathetic. I've never seen such a weepy winner. Boo-hoo my boss won so I still have a job. Boo-hoo you don't cover the stories anti-Van Tran like I would.
And as far as Janet being a better Congressional candidate than Tran - what a joke. And ask Paul Lucas how far publicizing a misstep by Van's wife got him? If the Dems think that bringing up dirt on her from before she even met Van is going to keep Loretta in Congress - they have another thing coming.
If Congress goes further to the left as expected this year, the OCGOP will be enthusiastic to help Tran and McCain will help fundraise for someone who was on his Presidential team. Plus Tran is better than Sanchez on Nat'l defense, immigration, and tax issues.
Janet has no record.
i though martin was pro-janet.
and that andrew do guy looks tall and big but he whines like a kid.
Andrew Do:
The only comment from your email that seems worthy of truthfulness and publication on this blog is your statement of "we [Janet and her Janetoons] are some insecure acolytes." That, you are guys are, and come in no surprise to anyone in the Vietnamese community, so STOP WHINING LIKE A BUNCH OF BABIES!!!
Just because Janet won her reelection, that doesn't make her better than Van Tran or his group. Congrats to her! However, you must remember, Janet is only ONE (UNO) elected official compare to the Trannies who have EIGHT elected officials. Do you really think that Janet is in any way, shape or form, comparable to the Van Tran??? I don't think so. Van was involved in politics in Central OC when Janet was still in her diaper. Janet can keep wishing and dreaming to be near Van's level of respect in the political arena, and maybe ten or twenty years from now, she might procure one-fourth (1/4), if any, of the level of respect the Vietnamese community has for Van Tran.
As for Mark's statements above, if you think that the Vietnamese community would stand behind Janet instead of Van Tran for the congressional race in 2010, you are sooooo wrong!!! Remember, Janet might win Dina for Supervisor, but that was not against Van. If that was Van running for Supervisor, I don't think Janet has a minuet chance. So, you should take some of your buddy, Andrew Do's advice (and Andrew Do should take his own advice also), and know the Vietnamese community and their politics before making ludicrous and impalpable statements.
Jubal-
Why are you calling for all sides to cease now? After Janet won---again? Why not the same message to Van in March of last year? I don't remember you demanding that Van and Schroeder stop the ridiculous lawsuits? Others did—Mark Butcher and Scott Baugh, however, you were silent on the issue. Surely the party would have been better off supporting Janet then--the Republican incumbent, instead of wasting resources having to defend the lawsuit and then her seat? I find your sense of timing questionable and highly suspect.
Finally, using the maturity argument is laughable and I know you to be more intellectually honest than that. Your blog has been used to reap abuse directed at Janet in the most childlike manner for over a year. And Janet isn't being mature? How many ads did Van take out in the Viet news media attacking Janet? I don't know either. So, please don't point to one and make the case that it is a pattern of behavior. I also will point out that one only has to look at my fellow commentors on this thread to make my point.
Why don't we all just leave Janet alone to do her job? Whether or not she reconciles with Van Tran is really irrelevant. He can continue to be the Assemblyman doing his best for his district and Janet can continue being the 1st District Supervisor doing her best for her district.
I does not go without notice however that the war waged against Janet was vociferous even after the Central Committee handshake. I don't read the Viet papers because I don't read the language but I have been told by my Viet friends that the ads were meant to be crushing and were really unnecessary attacks on Janet with such limited "backup" as a picture of her with someone or a campaign donation from someone that trades internationally.
On the other hand if you look at the Campaign finance report for Assemblyman Van Tran 2008 you will find interesting contributions from such entities as: Integrated Heathcare Holdings, Inc, the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees (from Sacramento) $3,600; Station Casinos, Las Vegas, Nevada; Union Pacific Railroad, Sacramento; Care Ambulance Services, Anaheim; Maersk INc. Charlotte, North Carolina, Reynolds American, Winston-Salem, North Carolina; Distilled Spirits Council, Washington DC; The HERTZ Corp.; Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, AT&T and its affiliates, San Francisco, CA;, California Cable Television Association PAC, Oakland, CA; Sempra Energy, SAN DIEGO; California Association of Psychiatric Technicians, INC. PAC, Sacramento, CA; NDEX West LLC, Addison, Texas. Too numerous to mention as it goes on for 41 pages and spans the entire U.S.
Then you can look at who his committee gave money to:
Friends of Paul Hegyi $3,600
Rep Party of OC $2,500
Truong Diep for Sanitary Board $2,000
Larry Dick for Assembly $500.00
Committee to re-elect Tom Fuentes to Community college board $300
Larry Dick for Assembly (again) $250
Tri Ta for City Council (Westminster) $250
Friends of Mike Spence Board of Ed $250.00
Carol Chen for City Council $250
Craig Deluz for School board $200
You can read this all for yourself by going to:
http://cal-access.sos.ca.gov/Campaing/Committees and put in Van Tran's name.
I guess I was most surprised by the people from a large number of states other than CA that contribute to his campaign. Also large donations from San Jose and Sacremento were interesting.
Anon above,
Looks like Van is a great contributor and a fundraiser. Nothing wrong with that. If I am a candidate for any office, I'd love to have him as a supporter. At least he puts money where his mouth is and is not afraid to share his resources with those he supports. Looks like he's a great team player for supporting his team mates, win or lose. I wouldn't mind to have Van on my team when the going gets rough.
nteresting how Van kept on saying that he wasn't a candidate in this election and yet it has been reported that he called to congratulate Supervisor Janet Nguyen.
Isn't that what candidates usually do after losing an election - is to call your opponent to congratulate him/her?
This move can either show that either in Van's mind he was the candidate or just his typical godfather's act of speaking for Dina and the Trannies...they aren't allow to speak until he says so. YES MASTER.
Lets see when Van will allow Dina to call to congratulate Supervisor Janet Nguyen DeleteReplyForwardMove...
Andrew Do is smoking what? I want some of his stuff. What an idiot!
Dear Team Player: It works well when he contributes to someone's campaign, however when instructions are given that the person to whom he is contributing is not allowed to hand out the flyers of someone he opposes - as the supportive check is being handed over, well then it becomes intimidation.
Anon above,
And supposed you have proof for this, right? Or is it another one of those baseless accusations and BS you throw at the Trannies? Business is ussual and the truth doesn't matter for you.