The following is posted over at totalbuzz regarding Walters interview before the Supes:

Adam 12 Says:
May 27th, 2008 at 9:48 pm
“My life is an open book,” Walters said.

…”I’m a virgin so this will be my first time too,” said the smooth talker to the impressionable young woman about to get in bed with a man who has bedded dozens before her…

All Walters proved is that he and his handlers had the benefit of watching the others, taking notes and expanding upon the best of what the previous applicants said. Walters does have a very disarming style but one only has to dig just a little to find controversy surrounding him. By far the most easiest to judge, one only has to look at how out of control Santa Ana is with this smooth talker in charge for almost 20 years. Soaring homicides, gangs, graffiti everywhere. The only reason he “came out of retirement” is because a group of Santa Ana residents was threatening to sue him and the city for the backroom deal that allowed him to double dip in the first place.

As was this:

Ready To Retire Says:
May 28th, 2008 at 6:25 pm
Adam 12 does raise an issue of concern. Walters has taken every opportunity to dismiss, ignore and embarass Carona over the years. Why did that change months before Carona quit? I don’t know the answer but I fear his principles were subordinated to his desires.

Last man who did that from this department is the reason we are here today.

And this;

Sam Says:
May 28th, 2008 at 8:10 pm
Hey Ready to Retire. Walters seemed to me to be a smooth operater in his interveiw with the Board of Supervisors. Maybe a little too smooth. You said something about principles. I was just cruising some links and I stumbled upon some information at OC Weekly’s website. To me, and I’m no expert on law enforcement, if somebody wants to be top cop, then they should be the epitomy of integrity. Walters endorsed Carona after most assuredly having knowledge of what the OC Weekly was saying about Carona particularly after they posted photographs. I don’t know when he endorsed Carona but I can see from the dates of the articles, they were before the primary in June of ‘06 where Carona was attempying to fend off Challengers. Walters should of, without a doubt, revoked his endorsement of Carona after knowing about theses articles. Any good cop would. He didn’t. Put a guy like this in office and it will be Carona II, the remake. If anyone doesn’t believe me, check the link below and check the dates of the articles. While you are at it, check all the articles prior to the June run-off between Carona and his challengers.
http://www.ocweekly.com/news/news/dirty-stupid-or-both/25006/

And this:

Sam Says:
May 29th, 2008 at 11:33 am
5149. You are always fun to talk to.(really) So how about this one: It is a well known fact that Walter’s son washed out of Hunting Beach Police Department. That’s pretty much the death knell when attempting to apply at any other police agency in this County. Enter Mike Carona who hires Walters son. Presto! Carona is endorsed by Walters. Doesn’t matter Carona has mob ties or that his Command Staff is crumbling around him. (see above) .There are some things that are just more important. Walters said : “Past measures, timid steps will not suffice,” He certainly wasn’t timid about supporting Carona when other law enforcement types were in a tizzy. So Moorlach should definately be worried about “hightened scrunity.” Your turn.

anonymous Says:
May 29th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
OK, so a faction of the Reeps get Greenhut to do a nice-nice on Walters, Walters endorses Bartlett for Judge, Lisa BArtlett Mayor PT in Dana Point endorse Walters, Walters endorses Carona, Carona hires his kid (who goes straight to courts (no jail time), Walters is in bed with the last two association presedents for SAPD (blankenship and Mark Nichols) Blankenship leaks investigation of the Sheriff Lieutenant son’s suicide to make SO look bad again, (which pissed of TRack) Mark Nichols is now GM of AOCDS…..So the management at OCSD will be as helpless as they are in Santa Ana, no support from Walters

Then if Walters get the nod, the CM in Santa Ana has agreed to bring in an interim chief (George Saadeh) FOR TWO YEARS until they find out if Walters gets re-elected, if not, he gets his chief job back

No politics here folks…… no worries……

Lastly, this:

Ponch and John Says:
May 29th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
5149.5,

You need to up your nome d plume to “5150.5… You are obviously one of Carona’s handlers who have hired on to cheerlead of Walters, especially since you surfaced about the same time Walters decided to try and manipulate his way into the office through the back door.

You state, “Hunt and Whitacre did their best to sink him early on and only managed to systematically take themselves out of the running. No one cares what you have to say.” …That’s funny. Knowing Tim Whitacre the way I do and knowing that Whitacre has lived in Santa Ana longer than Walters has been chief, I’d say that makes him pretty qualified as the straight shooter he’s known to be, to tell us about Walters and what he has or has not done. So, anything Whitacre would post re the guy (Walters) who sold out his professional integrity a long time ago, I and a lot of others would give heed to. I look forward to hearing anything he has to say about Walters, publicly or privately.

However, asisde from that, the law enforcement community is small and those of us in it know enough about Walters to agree with “Adam 12″ when he says Walters is the Carona of Santa Ana. You can’t work in this field for 20 years in the same place and not get a reputation one way or the other. “To serve and protect Walters” is his motto. Because Walters IS known as a compromised Cop who is willing to make backroom deals, that’s why Wayne Quint, Mark Nichols and Don Blankenship are quitely working behind the scenes to promote him, even though Bill Hunt got the endorsement from his fellow Deputies once again. They know Walters will gladly punch their meal tickets for the duration in return for their support -just like he did for Mike Carona.

I can’t wait until the rank and file of AOCDS totally understand that Quint is at it again against Hunt like he was last time when he undermined Hunt for Carona at every turn after Hunt won the endorsement. AND the fact that both Nichols and Blankenship were the last two successive Presidents of Santa Ana POA , AND all three are pushing the man in blue over their man in green right under their noses. I sure hope the BOS understands what’s being cooked up right under their noses as well…Like I said (Quint, Nichols, Blankenship), it’s a small community…

Walters is bad news anyway you look at him. From the Bond debacle for the SA Jail, to the absconding of bequethed money for a dedicated K9 building, to the double dipping of tax dollars, to the backroom deal endorsement of Carona, to the dismal state of Santa Ana like Adam 12 said etc. No matter how you look at him, Walters IS NOT Sheriff material.

My only question to the above comments then is this: Chris Norby, what the heck are you thinking???

Pass It On:

1) I would appreciate it if you would spam OC Blog's comments section with comments from other blogs.

2) Please refrain from making unsubstantiated allegations, especially of personal dishonesty or corruption -- and especially when you won;t even attached your real name to them. They'll just get edited out.

Seems the ones who have the most to be afraid of have slung the first mud.

Jubal,

I found the above to be relevant and thought you would like to have them here for your readers to see. There's nothing in the comments that are dishonest or deceitful. All one has to do is ask around about Walters. I know you have a personal bias for him and I respect your right to do so. Unlike you or other political types that are pushing him, there are many of us who have been around him in law enforcement for sometime to know who he really is and what he really stands for. Please understand that as a simply an officer, one has to be very careful of retribution if one speaks out about higher ranking cops. Just look at what happend to Bill Hunt for example.

Jubal,
I'd probably be a bit annoyed too just because of the volume of all these comments but heck didn't Scott W. Graves post his own bit of spam under "Rigonomics" a short time back? That was in the nature of a topic not a comment. Just my.02.

Additionlly, there are some unsubstantiated rumors floating around that operatives (not reporters) were taking notes and making phone calls after each Sheriff's candidate was interveiwed. Although this proves nothing, it does tend to reflect badly on the manner in which the interveiw process was handled. Bates had a problem with not sequestering the applicants if I recall.

Something just occured to my somewhat antiquated RAM memory. County Counsel had came up with two proposed documents each of which the candidates would be required to sign. These documents were basically affirmations from the candidates that they would not otherwise obtain information as to the onoing interveiw process via the internet or otherwise so as to not to obtain an unfair advantage (cheating). Sequestering was a issue set forth by Bates to avoid this disturbing scenario. Moorlach was of the opinion that sequestering was not required as these guys were all senior law enforcement individuals and questioning their intregrity was not credible. I'm starting to wonder. So my question is this: Did they sign these documents or did the Board of Supervisors give free reign to that last half of the applicants to put the fix on the interveiws? (integrity) And if these questionaires disappeared, who decided to violate the Brown Act to make it so? Somebody please tell me I'm wrong.

Riddle me this; Who are Walter's handlers? and who represented the AOCDS in their fight with OCFA to keep their prop 172 money Hint... they are the same two guys. Thier initials are John Lewis and Matt Hoffman... just a clue

There's nothing in the comments that are dishonest or deceitful. All one has to do is ask around about Walters.

That's just it. You've leveled a pretty serious accusation, and the only substantiation is "just ask around." Which would yield what: more hearsay?

I know you have a personal bias for him and I respect your right to do so. Unlike you or other political types that are pushing him...

Hold on. I like Paul Walters, but I haven't even totally made up my mind who I'd appoint if I were a Supe. I think several of the finalists -- including Paul Walters -- would make fine Sheriffs.

And how have I been "pushing" Paul Walters? By writing about my tour of the Santa Ana Jail?

Jubal, I think when you have a blog and are politically connected, it can be misinterpreted when you make the comments you made here about Walters.. http://www.redcounty.com/orange-county/2008/05/oc-sheriff-interviews-today/

I personally thought you were just giving your best opinion and I'm sure too taht Paul will be a finalist.

But you should be bothered or at least interested in the labor connections and how that might play out for the department and certainly for the R/party when people come looking for the Sheriff's endorsement. Who would he listen to? the GOP or AOCDS.

Its no secret that Blankenship is his supporter and that Mark Nichols ruled the roost at SAPD when he was there. Now he is at OCSD. If you want to do your homework, get ahold of current senior staff members at SAPD and ask if they feel supported in disciplinary matters.

And the stuff about his kid is well known throughout OC law enforcement. You could just ask the kid. He is in court M-F, not in a jail. Those kinds of insider deals are what killed the last administration.

Last night, Paul said he would only make decisions based on the best interest of the dept and county. Why then, would he ask carona to do something less ethical? Instead, he asked Carona to hire his kid after he washed out in Hunt Beach and then get him into the courts, an unprecedented move and a real morale buster.

Is this really someone you want leading the Sheriff's Dept?

Feel free to check around before you answer, its all true.

Gee, Chris' rush to get this done wouldn't have anything to do with his plan to miss the June 17 and June 24 Board meetings, would it? Of course not.

And JCI: who does Blankenship work for now? It's not SAPD or AOCDS.

It's a well known fact that if you flunk out of a department as a recruit, your chances are nonexistant at obtaining a job in another department, anywhere. Then to thereafter obtain a job in the plum position as a bailiff without working the jails for 7 years would be astonishing. If the media gets ahold of that in 2010, and if true, there will be no dancing around that issue as it is unprecedented.

checking out...

Blankenship is the Chief Investgator at the DA's office. Works directly for TRack, who apprently was one too pleaed when Blankenship let out the suicide investigation information regarding the Sheriff LT's son. How wrong to use that tragedy for politcal ends. IT needed follow-up, but not a news leak

Some of you guys need to dial back the venom, especially you Whitacre. If you check your facts, there are several deputies who went straight to the court system from the academy, bypassing the jails. There are also many, many deputies working very successfully for Sta-18 that failed the FTO program at a police department for one reason or another.

Sam, You need to get out more. OCWeekly is NOT a real news source and Scott Moxley is NOT a real reporter. How can you give any real credibility to a source that puts the "breaking news" next to condom ads. Until people learn what THEIR agenda is, anything that they say needs to be held suspect.

Confused Green,

You are absolutely right. It's funny how many people here don't know what they are talking about.

It's funny how many people put their name in for sheriff but they didn't take it upon themselves to run against Corona.

Walters backed Carona in the last election.

Anderson was put in his position by Carona.

Martin is against 3@50 and he wants to bring back the 8 hour shift.

I believe that Hunt is the obvious choice. He got the second most votes in the last election. The members of AOCDS have supported him twice. He put his carrer on the line to get rid of Carona and paid the price. Brad Gates was a Lieutenant when he was elected to Sheriff.

Confused Green,

Thanks for the compliment about being Whitacre, he's a good man.
Why is it "venom" when other law enforcement professionals are trying to warn about another Carona-like top cop who has had the reigns way too long in Santa Ana and has verifiable unethical behavior that, in the minds of many, many cops, should disqualify him from even remaining in uniform let alone be appointed Sheriff?

Even IF there are "several" Deputies who were hired directly into the courts - even IF there are "many, many deputies working very successfully for Sta-18 that failed the FTO program at a police department for one reason or another" (which I doubt that claim), that STILL DOESN'T EXCUSE Walters compromising professional ethics for a quid pro quo in which his son gets hired in a snap, in return for an endorsement. It begs the question, "If he's willing to sell out our Code of Ethics to give a "Chief of Police" endorsement to one of the dirtiest Sheriff's in recent times, what else will he do in uniform for personal gain, as well as WHAT ELSE has he done?"

Confused,

I don't think "Sam" is on this blog. Somebody posted one of his comments from another blog. Nonetheless, I suppose that smiling picture of Carona with his arm draped around that mobster is NOT real either or that Jarmillo was charged with bribery, Cavalo was arrested for working Carona's jails, YI was waving guns, 87 reservists didn't get background checks, 29k was illegally funneled to Carona from a convicted felon, etc. All this, including Walters' kid getting hired, was prior to Walters' endorsement of Carona. As it turned out Moxley was the only real reporter in the entire County.

Also what does failing a "Field Training Officer" (FTO) program have to do with Walters' kid? A FTO is a senior officer who trains new recruits or deficient officers in exchange for a bump in pay. A FTO would recommend to Superiors that a recruit be terminated for not having the capability or qualities to be a permanent police officer. It was a FTO that washed out Walters kid when Walters' kid was a recruit. Next question is why didn't Walters hire his own kid at Santa Ana? Answer: Police Agencies don't hire applicant's that were previously washed out at another Department.

Actually, Rocket, Walters can't hire his own son. It is against policy at SAPD. Nepotism....

Hmm. Sounds reasonable. Nevermind. I guess OCSD was the only alternative then.

"Adam 12" and "Ready to Retire" put it well at the top of these comments: Principles were subordinated to desire when Walters suddenly stopped taking every opportunity to dismiss, ignore and embarass Carona.

The reason behind it smells of what got us where we are now. Supes beware - The blood is on your hands if you appoint one who has already shown lack of integrity. Memories of voters will be long and refreshed if an appointed Sheriff plays any politics with the office of Sheriff. If so a house cleaning at building 10 will be urged.

If I remember correctly Hunt only won by 20 votes over walters for AOCDS endorsement so not exactly a overwhelming. Whitcare was the reason Hunt got 0 votes from the BOS becasue of the way he tried to sabatoge Janet Nguyens endorsement from the Republican party
If Walters was doing such a bad job as Chief why didn't any one on the city council try and get him fired.I never saw any scandal reaported during his time as Chief.
I am glad the Bos selected the best two as finalist for Sheriff as either of them will do a great job and give the department Honesty&Integerity. This is something that has been sevely lacking under Caron&Anderson. My Choice would be for Walters as he can bring this department back to greatness