I never thought janets voting record was very Republican - certainly not conservative. It's good to see that others have been keeping track of her votes.

I'm also confused why she stabbed Tran in the back. It seemed like Van had done nothing but help her until her betrayal.

She just doesn't seem very logical or well thought out.

I noticed too that she kept some od Lou Correa's staffers on her county staff.

You know what Reagan said, "Personel is policy."

Janet's in trouble for a reason. Again, nothing happens without a reason, and rgere are so many reasons why Janet is in this pickle.

Viorel just scratched the tip of the iceberg on Janet's numerous misdeeds. Several more chapters could be written on her. Ken Maddox, her longest employer and boss for nearly 6 years during his Assembly tenure, can fully attest. She is being shunned in Central OC for a very legitimate reason.

I don't know how any Republican can spend $100,000 of taxpayer dollars on an anteater for the local zoo.

Is that what Janet thinks the role of government is?

Unbiased,

It's not only Van Tran, her mentor and guide, that Janet Nguyen stabbed, and repeatedly, but you can talk to EVERY Viet Republican elected in the area, and they will share with you their Janet's horror story.

This issue is not going away regardless of what the OC GOP wants to do.

As a GOP activist, I hate to say this but I think Lou Correa was slightly for fiscally responsible than Supervisor Nguyen has been.

I know she is no Congresswoman, but with Republicans like this, it is no wonder we lost control of Congress.

Sore loser.

Been Around,

Can you do better than name calling as a response? Are you out of arguments and defense to play block for your Janet Nguyen. The truth is the truth. Nobody lose here old boy.

I don't get your argument. If Janet's so bad, why should the OC GOP stay neutral? If all you said about Janet's true, shouldn't the OC GOP endorse Dina?

Why on earth should the OC GOP relinquish its duty of endorsing a candidate in a race in which there is at least one GOP candidate?

Or are you saying that Dina is a RINO too?

This is a race to represent the 1st District of Orange County, not a race to represent the Vietnamese GOP caucus. OC GOP would be amiss to stay neutral.

Bolsavik, if you read my conclusion, the reason why I think the OCGOP should stay neutral is because the Vietnamese community does not need to be further divided than it already is. An endorsement, either for Janet or Dina, would have the adverse effect than what the goal of the party's endorsement should be.

The party should treat this as a contested Republican primary and stay out of it. Pure and simple.

Bolsavik,

Apparently, you don't understand how the OC GOP works. There is an unwritten tradition, but not policy, of endorsing incumbent GOP office holders. The local Party has never had to deal with such a controversial situation like this before in its existence. The whole process of endorsing in non-partisan races just came about a few years ago, and the Party is still trying to muddle through some of the problems and issues that caused its mebership lots of heartburn and headaches. Some folks are having second thoughts about the entire local endorsement process and want to chuck it altogether.

There is not a "duty", as you call it, to endorse anyone. There is just a simple precedent, and a brief precedent at that, to endorse incumbents. But never before in Central County, has the Party faced with such a controversial and disputed race as this. There is no precedent with this race and that where the problem lies, not to mention the incumbent herself, Janet Nguyen, is a highly controversial person and has attracted numerous enemies.

Bolsavik,

Your rationale is flawed at several levels. You have three candidates, all of whom are of Viet descent. Most observers would agree that both Janet and Dina Nguyen are the two strongest candidates, and both are Republicans. More likely than not, a GOP candidate will win this seat.

Although this is a seat to represent all of the 1st District, as you put it, the local Rep Party, as a partisan entity, can only claim to represent at most, 38% of the registered voters who signed up as GOP voters, the rest are either DTS, Dems, or others. One may even make a much stronger argument that the Democratic Party should and must endorse the Dem candidate in this race, which it has not. Why sould the Dems not endorse when there is only one Dem candidate, Hoa Tran, running undisputed in his own Party, and the Dem voters even outnumber the Rep voters?

The question that needs to be asked is this: What does the GOP have to gain by getting in the middle of a disputed race between two viable Viet candidates, lest it wants to further cause division in the Viet community, which is currently, two to one Republican? In this case, there is no upside to choosing sides.

I would like to direct the viewers attention to a post from THELIBERALOC.COM posted on April 16th by Sean Mill. Below I cut and pasted the introduction to this post. I also posted the link to the post below for you to see for yourself before it gets deleted by Chris Prevatt, the New "Janny" in Art Pedrozas army of Jannys among the democratic party of OC. The Analysis of the post follows the quote.

"Last night after waiting several days for a response from Supervisor Janet Nguyen I posted a “satirical” email from her in which I insinuated that she was giving me the middle finger. My use of the middle finger was meant to symbolize her lack of response to my email regarding the Little Saigon protesters. Earlier this morning I was informed by Phil Becerra via Chris Prevatt that Janet did indeed respond, however she claimed that her email was rejected three times."

My first question is why Chris Prevatt, who used to be quite critical of Janet Nguyen, took down the middle finger picture on the word of another democrat that told him Janet DID respond but her emails were "Rejected"? If Sean Mill sent her an email why would his email reject a response from her from the same email address? Doesn’t add up to me. This connection between Janet Nguyen and the Executive Director if the Democratic Foundation of Orange County and Chris Prevatt smells of Janet Nguyen switching party registration in order o gain and advantage in the upcoming race between her and Dina.

Second, why is Phil Becerra, the Executive Director of the Democratic Foundation of Orange County http://www.dfoc.com/ is passing messages to Sean mill and Chris Prevatt at the behest of Janet Nguyen?

Viorel is correct when she states that Janet is a RINO allied with several Democrats. The Executive Director of the DFOC Phil Becerra is one of her closest allies and supporters. I have heard from insiders that Santa Ana Councilwoman Michelle Martinez complained bitterly about Phil Becerra and Art Pedroza scuttling that No on Measure D campaign in order to prevent Claudia Alvarez from entering the race against Janet. That’s why Art Pedroza has been very critical of Michelle Martinez lately. She won’t kiss Arts ass or Janet’s ass. So as a result Art Pedroza is becoming increasingly Critical of Michelle Martinez.

I understand that Janet Nguyen is working closely with Phil Becerra in order to secure support for her candidacy from the DFOC and The Democratic Party. That is why Hoa Van Tran has received no support from elected democrats, the DPOC or the Labor Unions. Too bad for Phil Becerra the Young Democrats endorsed Hoa Van Tran last week.

To sum it up, go to the Liberal OC www.theliberaloc.com to view the post yourself and look in the archives to see that Prevatt used to be very critical of Janet Nguyen. Now he is running interference for her by editing the posts of other bloggers in order to defend Janet Nguyen by the intervention of Phil Becerra the Executive Director of the Democratic Foundation of Orange County www.dfoc.com.

Do I need to do anymore in order to convince Scott Baugh and the OC GOP to endorse Dina or to stay out of this election altogether? In my opinion, the OC GOP should rid themselves of this poor example of an elected and be done with her forever.

http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/04/16/janet-actually-responds/

Can we ask ourselves why it's okay for Janet to continue cooperating with Democrats for the detriment of Republicans?

You know who's REALLY cooperating with Democrats? Dina. She's the one who recruited Paul Lucas to run -- so he would take votes away from Janet. She's the one who recruited Hoa Tran to run -- so he would take votes away from Janet.

The only candidate in this race who's cooperating with Democrats is Dina Nguyen. Get used to it.

Missy,

Dina Nguyen's not recruiting anyone to run against Janet other than running her own campaign. Please do not make wild and baseless charges on this blog. You have no credibility in your attempt to defend Janet Nguyen when you cast lies like this.

Let's discuss some of your most egregious charges. Janet is not Miss Congeniality but she is not corrupt like:

Andy "Pricelist" Quach, Dina's boyfriend against Margie Rice who has run Westminster well. If you want someone who is rumored to be on the take to represent the GOP then stick with Andy.

Ask yourself why Janet left the Van Cabal. Sketchy fundraising manuevers, (Buddhist Temple), word on the street is the VN community has had it with Van and the Trannies as they are only out to make a buck and don't help the community. Why would Janet want to be associated with that group?

Schroeder and Van married at the hip, and have sued Janet left and right. While you may like litigious trial lawyers, most voters in the 1st supes do not.

I find it amazing that this corrupt Van machine has the audacity to point any fingers. Oh ye who is blameless shall cast the first stone. Later ................

A reliable source said Janet Nguyen will decide to change party or not after April 20.

Interesting, we just wait and see

Did some Janet defender really just say Team Tran is involved with "Sketchy fundraising manuevers?" Oh boy...hold on...I have to stop laughing...Can't type and laugh this hard...

Then they had the audacity to say, "Oh ye who is blameless shall cast the first stone."

I bumped into an RNC staffer a while ago who works in the White House now who was getting calls about a Garden Grove Councilwoman (Janet) shaking down Republican donors with not-veiled-at-all threats. Does that sound kind of "sketchy?"

And let me get this straight, Janet wants to shut down a religous institution and Van doesn't, so she has to feed information to Marggie Rice as Van is helping her run for his old GG Council seat.

Does that make sense to anyone?

Anon @ 11:52 p.m.:

It's difficult to take your charges seriously when you are unable to get even basic facts correct.

For example, you identify Phil Bacerra as the Ed of the Democratic Foundation of Orange County. Phil hasn't had that job for a few years.

Then you try to paint Chris Prevatt as a Janet supporter. Well, if you watch the YouTube video of Hoa Van Tran speaking to the OCYDs, you'll see Chris asking Hoa a question, and later you see the OCYDs unanimously endorse Hoa. That doesn't square with your claim Chris is supporting Janet. All evidence is actually to the contrary.

Dina Nguyen's not recruiting anyone to run against Janet

HA HA HA HA HA!

That's the funniest thing I've read in weeks!

Viorel is correct... it is customary for republican organization like CRA to offer endorsement for all incumbent republican office holders.

For the 1st.Supe. race however, CRA delegates decided to stay out of this murky water by NOT endorsing neither candidates and I believe it was a good decision. Like wise, the OC Republican should let the central republican voters to chose their republican representation at the booth.

I have known Assemblyman Tran for years. I like him and respect him. But he is NOT a kingmaker and should not be allowed to assume such a role in this or any other race. Viorel's whole premise seems to be that no Vietnamese-American candidate should get the GOP nod without Mr. Tran's OK. In the words of Col. Sherman Potter, "horse puckey!"

I will be supporitng Janet because she is a Republican who has done a good job as OC Sup #1. Is she perfect? No. Does she have more experience that Dina Hguyen? Yes. Has she worked hard? Yes. Has she worked diligently to become a better Republican? Yes. Is she blindly loyal to her "mentors" and those who demand such blind loyalty? Thankfully, no. Is she running a sham Democrat in a transparent attempt to force a run-off? No.

Janet clearly understands that she must represent all in the 1st District. I do not have the same level of confidence in her opponents.

"Viorel's whole premise seems to be that no Vietnamese-American candidate should get the GOP nod without Mr. Tran's OK."

Thanks for putting words in my mouth Slice.

My premise is that when the most prominent and most respected Republican Vietnamese-American elected official makes a SCATHING non-endorsement of a candidate he has known and supported for years, it should mean something.

The OCGOP has had no problem sharing credit for the work that Van Tran and his organization has done; whether it be by training and fielding local candidates, by running the most successful ethnic voter registration drive this county has ever seen, or by helping Lynn Daucher come within inches of beating Lou Correa. The fact that Van bowed out of that primary fight, endorsed Lynn, and threw his whole machine behind her tells me ALL I need to know on who the real TEAMPLAYER is here. Ask any Daucher campaign staffer how much Janet helped during that campaign. I heard first hand from one of them that she hung up the phone on them when they called for help. Twice! Why would she, after all? If Lynn won, Janet wouldn't have had the opportunity to run for Lou Correa's seat right? She may have been a moderate, but she was still a Republican and better than the alternative (pretty sure Lynn wouldn't be against the 241 TollRoad).

So the OCGOP takes all the credit and give no thanks and return. Not only in the form of counter-support but also in the form of blatant disregard for his opinion.

I never claimed Van was a kingmaker, but I do believe we should listen to the person who knows best. For you or anyone to claim that Janet or anyone in her team knows better than Van is absolutely ludicrous and if that is your premise, then I say "horse puckey" to you!

Slice-

Are you serious?

"I will be supporitng Janet because she is a Republican who has done a good job as OC Sup #1."

What do you classify as a "good job"? I couldn't have done as good of a job as Viorel did of laying out her record but I did know about a few of her negatives. Can you explain to me how she's done a "good job"?

"Is she running a sham Democrat in a transparent attempt to force a run-off? No."

I'd love to see some evidence of this. You are starting to sound like Art Pedroza with his black helicopters: "VAN RECRUITED PAUL LUCAS!" only to be told by Paul Lucas himself that it wasn't true...*sighs*

Let me start by saying that I do not have a dog in this fight as I do not reside in the 1st District. I am an observer who is frankly digusted by the race-bating and threatening dialogue this particular contest has given rise to. Let me say that with the hundreds of thousands of people who do live in the 1st Dist, I find it hard to believe that 2 of the 3 candidates (D. Nguyen and Hoa Tran) in this race have desks less than 50 feet apart in the same office without any collusion between them. Any suggestions to the contrary insult even ordinary intelligence.

I would also point out that the rantings of Viorel, D'Anconia and the host of those "Anonymous" posters smack of racism and ignore the fact that the 1st is not comprised solely of Viet-Americans.

Finally, I am most troubled by Viorel's suggestion, as I interpret it, that Van's direction must be blindly followed because he is a high-ranking Viet-Republican. As I said, I am a Van supporter and will continue to be. I would say he has done a good job, in spite of his missteps (all leaders have them - not just Janet), but Viorel and D'Anconia would find that troubling.

This race is becoming scarier by the day, and the continued hostility threatens both the Vietnaese and GOP communities.

So what kind of odds are we looking at for the Janet Nguyen Party Shift Date? I'm willing to put some good money up if anyone else wants to get in on this action...

Slice I would love to hear how my "rantings" smack of racism?

I guess I didn't know that asking for how Janet has done a "good job" was a racist remark?

Maybe because I said that you're starting to sound like Art Pedroza, maybe that was racist?

I really wish people would be more careful about throwing around the race card.

Slice, I think what Viorel is trying to say is simple and clear...

Let the winner take all in November and we should not be involved in this dog fight!.............this is exactly what we did at CRA convention.

"Let me say that with the hundreds of thousands of people who do live in the 1st Dist, I find it hard to believe that 2 of the 3 candidates (D. Nguyen and Hoa Tran) in this race have desks less than 50 feet apart in the same office without any collusion between them. Any suggestions to the contrary insult even ordinary intelligence."

It would do your cause some good for you to actually do your research before throwing around baseless accusations. Go to Dina's office and see if Hoa Van Tran's desk is anywhere near it. Go do it!

Or you can just ask either one of them if they work with each other in the same office, I'm sure they would be happy to inform you that you're doing nothing but throwing around another baseless rumor. Oh yeah guess who started that rumor? Art Pedroza! Go figure...

Is that all you got Slice? Baseless rumors from a bona fides nut job?

Re:Slice, Well.. Art Pedroza did vote for Obama and he supports abortion, gay marriage, legalized prostitution and anti-God agenda.

I don't know what interest does this "Wild" Art Pedroza has in this election.

Is [Janet] running a sham Democrat in a transparent attempt to force a run-off? No.

Slice, I don't think I've ever before agreed with a syllable you've written, but here you've got it completely right. Dina tried to get Paul Lucas to run, and she succeeded with Hoa Tran. I'm not sure either Paul or Hoa know they've been used. But knowingly or not, both of them put their names up because Dina wanted them to, and in both cases her aim is to force Janet into a runoff.

Some may call it a Trannie plot, but working to drain Janet's bank account is more Schroeder's style than Van Tran's.

Missy, are you implying Hoa is running under duress? I disagree.

Hoa is running because he strongly believe he can beat troubled Janet! Hoa has been actively campaigning to build momentum in Viet community.

These 3 Viet. candidates are truly engaged in a "dog fight" and Dina Nguyen is gaining more support from the broader community bases as she is guarding her lead position against two opponents... Janet and Hoa.

It only be small amount of time Dina have lead 70%, Hoa 35% and mean Janet 2%!!!

Let me clarify something for "Slice" and everyone else out there spewing forth regurgetated garbage as "fact."

Dina Ngueyn and Hoa Van Tran DO NOT work in the same office, NEVER HAVE worked in the same office and most likely NEVER WILL work in the same office. Virtually every licensed attorney out there is "Of Counsel" to another law office because of the specific areas of expertise they bring to the table for certain cases being handled by the office they are "Of Counsel" (or contracted) to.

This is the case with Dina and Hoa. They both handle different areas of law and are "Of Counsel" when needed by a third-party firm - nothing more than that! Anybody can verify they both work full time at different addresses.

So, stop with the sorid rumors of backroom deals between Dina and Hoa to "take out" Janet Nguyen. It might make for some good reading as gossip, but it just isn't so.

Missy, are you implying Hoa is running under duress?

How could you possibly read that into what I wrote? You seem to have an exceptionally vivid imagination.

Jubal,
You made some valid points in regard to Anon 11:52Pm.
However some valid questions are raised by anon 11:52.

First, Sean Mill posted an article on Janet’s lack of response on April 15th in the late evening. Then by early morning the very next day the editor of the LIBERAL OC is informed by a Democratic operative (Phil Becerra) at the behest of Janet Nguyen herself that her emails had been "Bounced Back"

Second, the idea of a REPLY being bounced back by Sean Mills Email server to Janet is totally ridiculous. How can a server send a person an email and then refuse to accept that email addresses response or reply. It should be a recognized IP address tot he server.

Third, Phil Becerra was at one time the ED of the DFOC. That fact is not questionable. The real question is why is Janet Nguyen calling this person in the middle of the night and getting information to the editor of the LIBERAL OC?

I suspect that Janet my be switching from REP to DEM very soon. The fact that no other elected Democrat or even the Democratic Party have not given Hoa Van Tran their endorsement yet leads me to suspect that Janet has made a deal with the Democratic Party.

Dina Nguyen doesn't need a desk at Do Phu & An Tuan in order to work there. Does every attorney that collects a check from these guys get a desk? How long has Dina been a lawyer?

If Dina Nguyen doesn't work for Do Phu & An Tuan, then wouldn't her real employer be revealed by her disclosure statements?

I've read on this blog that Dina has three children and gave her campaign at least $25000. Where does she get her income from?

Isn't this all public record?

Viorel,

Nice job with this post.

FYI, the post in which you were quoted on the LiberalOC was actually written by Dan Chmielewski and not myself.

Regarding the whole issue of Janet's email to me bouncing back and her getting to me via Phil Bacerra and Chris Prevatt I would not read too much into that. I do find it strange that her emails bounced back however. I got the rest of my emails from everyone else, but hey, who am I to question her version of events?

However if Janet was truly concerned about me getting her email she could have called me at the number that I put on my email to her. The fact that she waited until after I posted my "middle finger" post raises questions however.

Thanks for the correction Sean.

"........you seem to have an excetionally vivid imagination"

Missy, I don't have vivid imagination but I do feel you have a personal, disturbed heart against one candidate........and it's clouding your judgment in a wrong way.

Not to break up the food fight, but I have a question:

Where does Assemblywoman Walters and her delegates in AD73 go in this whole fight?

Interesting that you should ask that. One would think that Mimi has wisened up by now and realized that sticking her nose in other people's business has consequences.

Remember Harman vs. Harkey? You're about to see a repeat, but this time Van may not sit on the sidelines.

Saigon Insider:

I have friends who are Democrats. I talk to Democrats frequently. Does that mean I am going to become a Democrat?

I would be absolutely stunned if Janet Nguyen switched parties, least of all before the June primary. That would be political suicide, and Janet isn't the politically suicidal type.

To CRA REPUBLICAN:

"CRA delegates decided to stay out of this murky water by NOT endorsing neither candidates"

I'm not sure that's a fair version of events. CRA did not endorse because neither candidate receive 2/3 vote, NOT because the delegates "decided to stay out of this murky water"

I think the final vote was 11 for Janet, 8 for Dina, and 1 "no".

That means 19 to 1 IN FAVOR OF ENDORSING SOMEONE.

The vote was overwhelmingly to stay IN the water, not out of it.

To Bolsavik and "CRA REPBULICAN" re CRA endorsement/non endorsement

I would guess that CRA republican already knows this but just to keep the record straight, the Orange County American Vietnamese Republican Assembly filed a dispute to keep other CRA units from forming, including the Westminster CRA. They claimed that Westminster was "theirs" however according to the bylaws of CRA they are supposed to have the geographical location of their unit in their name. So I surmise the next move they might make would be to disband or absorb all CRA units in ORANGE COUNTY since that is the geographical location mentioned in their name.

However had the viets, who claim this is THEIR FIGHT (and Van Tran may not sit on the sidelines) let justice prevail and let other units have the FREEDOM to form and exercise their rights then that endorsement may have gone a whole different directlion. They were very aware that other people did want to endorse Janet, but deprived them of that right.

Listen CRA REPUBLICAN, this is NOT JUST YOUR FIGHT. Have you looked recently at the total population of the 1st district? Other people live here too you know. As for Van Tran not sitting on the sidelines..you bet he hasn't been. There have been calls made to favored Republican candidates indicating that if they endorse Janet, their republican opponents will be endorsed by the Viet community. Copious amounts of cash have been raised seemingly overnight for the virtually unheard of candidate Van Tran favors. Another flame thrower to douse the democrats votes; another person was added to the race. It seems the "scorched earth policy" of the Machine has gone full force.

While this Machine is made of many well working parts, it is now being seen for what it is. And a whole lot of people really don't like that kind of politics.

Missy, I don't have vivid imagination but I do feel you have a personal, disturbed heart against one candidate........and it's clouding your judgment in a wrong way.

My cardiologist thanks you for your concern but begs me to inform you that my heart is completely sound.

I've got nothing particular against Dina or Hoa. I've met them both and I think they are decent people. I've never met Janet and know only what I read. But the FACT is that DINA is working with the Dems in this election.

I've got nothing against Dems -- been one my whole life. I think Dems and Reeps should work together more. But if you're going to criticize folks for working with Dems in the 1st Supes race, the first person you need to criticize is Dina.

Dina recruited Hoa to run and she recruited Paul. That's a fact.

What some people here seem not to understand is that this is a race between the Schroeder Reeps and everyone else. If you want Schroeder to run the county, support Dina or Hoa. If you want the county to be run by a conservative who isn't beholden to Schroeder (or Van Tran), you should support Janet.

Oh, and BTW: the idea that Janet would reregister as a Dem is hilarious. She's about as near to being a Democrat as Dick Cheney is.

Bolsavik, aka cheer leader for Janet, our 9 out of 20 CRA delegates had decides not to endorse "troubled/overly agressive" incumbent Janet...... knowing neither candidate will receive indorsement on the 3rd round of voting ( collectively all 20 members knew we were heading for "NO ENDORSEMENT").......and if there were 4th round voting............ Dina would have received probably more votes than Janet or even have received the endorsement itself because CRA delegates were getting very unhappy with Janet's personal attack approach against her opponent Dina.

Anon:12:16, Janet, do not underestimate our CRA leadership....I am glad they got rid of your sham unit establishment effort.....your motive was shallow and dirty!

Missey, aka a Dem with MISSing brain cells, you can speak to Hoa your self.. and he will tell you clearly that "HOA WANTS TO BE ELECTED AS YOUR SUPERVISOR!" Ask anyone, people do not run for the office to just kill time!

MISSing, go look for your lost members at Dem. Party with Art Pedroza.

Messy,

Yeah and Hillary also recruited John McCain to run. That's a fact.

Missy,

You need to check your facts and get off from your 200-yard observation, which is very incorrect.

Dina has NO role in working with Hoa Tran.Please do not spread lies and falsehoods.

In response to "CRA REPUBLICAN"'s comment: Anon:12:16, Janet, do not underestimate our CRA leadership....I am glad they got rid of your sham unit establishment effort.....your motive was shallow and dirty!

HA HA HA - if you are going to talk about what is "dirty" then talk about the FALSE 'dispute' of the Orange County American Vietnamese CRA claiming the territory of Westminster and Midway City. The FACT that the OC American Vietnamese CRA only planned in their by-laws to represent the Vietnamese is clearly written; so the fact that the other 61% of Westminster remains unrepresented by a CRA unit is also clear. The claim on Midway City is also patently FALSE; as the Orange County American Vietnamese CRA bylaws do not even mention Midway City. So who played dirty here CRA REPUBLICAN? The FACT that your unit has repeatedly and continues to withhold any EVIDENCE of a map that outlines WESTMINSTER. The FACT that only ONE of your CHARTERED ORIGINAL MEMBERS actually lived in Westminster is quite provable, and has been documented now...so

Who perpetrated a sham?

- Charter was designed for American Vietnamese
- Charter says American Vietnamese WITHIN Westminster
- Charter name does not reflect the name of Westminster which is required by the CRA by-laws
- Charter reflects of the original members only one lived in Westminster, and the bylaws of the CRA state that at least 50% of your members must live in the city in which you want to establish your unit.
- Charter requires a MAP of the area you are chartering and your SHAM unit NEVER submitted a map

So who's "shamming now"????????????????????????????????????????

And I am NOT Janet. I am an American of Indian, Irish, Italian and French extraction; born right here in California; a member of the Republican Party since I was 18 years old. But I support Janet because she, contrary to all of your false claims; loves America and works hard representing ALL the people of the 1st District, not just the Vietnamese as you claimed on another Blog that Dina would ONLY represent the Vietnamese...so who's SHAMMING now ????? You should be ashamed of yourself for even calling yourself "CRA Republican" and with all your falsehoods you should resign from the party in disgrace.

Anon at 6:38 AM,

Sounds like you got out of the wrong side of bed this morning, and early too!

Dina Nguyen never said that she only support Vietnamese. In fact, she has publicly said many times that she will fairly represent ALL cities in the 1st, unlike Janet Nguyen. If you don't believe that, go talk to the leaders in Santa Ana and they'll tell you what they think about your Janet. You are so wrong that I don't know where to begin. Your wild rants make very little sense.

But here's your problem. You really sound like Vivian Kilpatrick Pilger, who is a resentful and disenchanted loser -- both with your re-election to the Midway Sanitation Board and your failed attempt to create a sham Westminster CRA Unit. The issues have been resolved in a public and fair hearing with all evidence presented. It is an established fact. Live with it and stop your caustic whining.

To "Smell the Coffee" AKA TD - your new handle fools no one.

I was addressing CRA REPUBLICAN, who, has posted as several different entrants, including STUDENT on occasion, and in one very vivid and enchanting rant did indeed say that Dina would only represent the Vietnamese. Go look it up for yourself, it's there...

And if you wish to "out" people you have no business having the right to have your own authorship status on this blog. It's weak of you to continue to pull this plug line on me, Vivian KIRKpatrick-Pilger and it's weak of you to continue to spell my name wrong because you think it's funny (as you have told your friends - one of which told ME!). And as far as the MCSD Election, you know perfectly well how my opponent won that and if in your mind you think that was honorable then you have a long way to go to find the meaning of life. As I explained to you before; losing that race was actually a relief at the time because I have family matters (a life threatening one) that I have been dealing with that needs me much more than the MCSD did at the time.

And again, you are wrong, again, "The issues have been resolved in a public and fair hearing with all evidence presented. It is an established fact." In fact it is not yet all resolved. And much like some others I know of; I will not STOP WHINING until justice is served. I think you refer to this as the "squeaky wheel gets the most grease" something you are very good at. Well, I'm just learning how to whine - so get used to it.

OK, "Of Counsel," if I read your post correctly, you admit that Dina and Hoa work together - just not in the same physical space. This is what you said:

"Dina Ngueyn and Hoa Van Tran DO NOT work in the same office, NEVER HAVE worked in the same office and most likely NEVER WILL work in the same office. Virtually every licensed attorney out there is "Of Counsel" to another law office because of the specific areas of expertise they bring to the table for certain cases being handled by the office they are "Of Counsel" (or contracted) to."

A quick look at the State Bar website also reveals that they were classmates at the same incredibly small night law school in a Long Beach office building, graduated together, and were admitted to the bar at the same time. I don't really care to beleaguer the point, but I simply cannot accept your contention that they are not friends and are not working together in this campaign. Their collusion seems obvious to just about any observer with a pulse and an IQ above room temperature.

By the way, as a licensed attorney myself for 16 years, I am not "of counsel" to anyone nor is anyone else "of counsel" to my well-established firm. Your premise is simply incorrect.

Slice,

As a 16-year lawyer, as you claim, you should know better than make false accusations by insinuation and rumor, without any direct eidence.

The Viet community Bar has a small Bar membership. Everyone knows each other and cross each other's paths. There is nothing supicious about this.

It is very desperate of you to try so hard to make some sort of dark conspiracy here.

From an evidentiary stand point, you make a much better case that Gerald Feathers and Dem lawyer Fred w=Woocher were in cahoots with Janet to steal and turn over votes from Trung Nguyen during the recount. We don't hear too much groaning from you about that.

Give it a rest and come up with some real evidence, which there is none, or just put up with the fact that anti-Janet sentiments run pretty high in the 1st!

Why so defensive, Dice?

I guess I have gotten side-tracked by the side-show that has become the 1st SD race. So much so, that I have been sucked into the debate of who can throw more at the other side. Shame on me. But going back to Viorel's original post, I must question the logic of having the OCGOP sit on the sidelines in such an important race.

The whole purpose of the endorsement process is to have the best GOP candidates representing the party on election day. The OCGOP routinely endorses candidates in local races - often when there are many Republicans seeking a particular seat. Why should this race be any different? I am really perplexed by the strategy of the Dina camp in seeking OCGOP neutrality rather than an outright endorsement. Why doesn't Dina want the endorsement?

Wouldn't the party be better served by having a strong candidate, be it Janet or Dina, with the weight of the party behind her against the Democratic candidate (whom, apparently, Dina knows nothing about)?

and he will tell you clearly that "HOA WANTS TO BE ELECTED AS YOUR SUPERVISOR!" Ask anyone, people do not run for the office to just kill time!

You are correct. I never said Hoa didn't want to be elected.

Slice,

No defense here. Just don't spread lies and rumors. If you got the facts and the smoking gun, present it. It's very certain that none exist. Otherwise, you should act, speak and write responsibly, espcially when you claim your lawyer status.

Slice,

Again, get your facts and info straight and in order. Most of the local County GOP CC in California DO NOT have local endorsement committees because the process had proven to be divisive and counterproductive, especially when fellow Republicans fight against each other in Primary elections. The OC GOP is having second thoughts about this entire process and may vote to chuck it altogether because it has created turmoil and problems among the Party members. I would whole heartdedly support that.

What good has this process brought? If your logic is correct, which it is not, then let's ask Ex-Sheriff Mike Carona, who went through the same process and was endorsed by the Party. Need I say more?

Dice:

Another poster asked about where Dina makes her money. This is a legitimate question that no one seems to have the answer to.

If you assert that Dina doesn't work with Hoa Van Tran and the law firm he works at, then where does her income come from?

Wow. Dina and Hoa went to the same small law school together? Could anyone write a better script?

Dina Nguyen: International Woman of Mystery.

The more you learn, the more questions there are. Her candidacy continues to get more and more bizarre.

Hey Anon,

Nice try mudslinging at Dina Nguyen. It ain't gonna work. But keep trying .... in vain that is. What's bizarre is your posts. You're trying too hard.

BTW, here's a bit of "good" news for Janet Nguyen on top of the week: Dina's fundraising event at Seafood Paracel Restaurant in Westminster brought in well over 300 attendees and supporters, packed to house capacity. This isn't bizarre. Go ahead and try to solve that "mystery". It's great support for Dina!

Anon.6:38, ofcourse you are not Janet.....you are Vivian Nguyen the self appointed/short lived, president of now defunct, sham cra unit.

Get over with your childish hatred toward our cra leadership decision of not approving your sham unit (purposefully established with ill intent and over lapping other pre established unit's district map).

I know you are acting laughing " HA HA HA..." but I think your heart is still weeping!

Our life is too short..... breathe the fresh air and give thanks.

For clarification, Dice, I DO have my facts straight. I said nothing about other county GOP committees, so kindly stop twisting my comments to suit your blind defense of your candidate. It is a FACT that the Orange County GOP routinely endorses local candidates. It is also FACT that it often does so when there is more than one Republican in the race. I am not making any value judgment as to whether or not that is a good thing. Again, quit distorting my comments. In all of your vitriol, neither you nor any of Dina's supporters have explained why it is that Dina does not want the GOP endorsement. It is a fair question.

Anon.6:38, aka Vivian Kirkpatrick- Pilger, appointed by Janet on the regional Rec. and Trail's commission, sham unit's self appointed ex- president....

No thanks to your kind offer "....(cra republican) should resisgn from the party.."
Janet's comrade, Art Pedroza, did resign himself from the republican party and now he is supporting Obama........did you asked him the same question?

If you did, you are not a good republican!
Maybe a good spy from Dems...............

With a fire authority Permit for only 290, I'd say Dina has broken the law now. Want to post that around?

TO CRA Republican, I am sorry you are jealous about Vivian's appointment to a commission. That is too bad, so maybe if your candidate wins she will appoint to something. At least you can spell Vivian's name correctly.

See you soon CRA Repub.....LOL

Re: The Fire Permit

Now that's funny!

Teacher said: "well over 300 attendees and supporters, packed to house capacity"

If it was well over 300, the fire permit is for 290....I'd say we have a real law breaker here!! We can list that with the rest of Dina's accomplishments.

Anon above,

You think you are so smart but you are not too bright. Let me clearly explain to you and your colleague, SLICE, who are trying sooooo hard to discredit Dina, to no avail. Dina Nguyen had a GREAT fundraiser last night with well over 300 people attending.

The occupancy permit for the Restaurant is not listed at 290, but even if it is, so what?! People were coming in and out during the four hour event. So there, more than 300 hundred total throughout the night. The crowd was moving in and out.

It's pretty desperate of you to use the local Fire Code to try to ding Dina when she's not breaking anything, other than her fundraising record!! Very petty but you misfired again!

Dice is correct on that OC GOP should not give endorsement for this stormy 1st. supe race.

Anon. and Slice need to understand what is best for our OC GOP as a collective political group.

I don't think regular restaurant patrons count towards that number teach.

Wasn't the ticket price at $25 Dollars a person. The restaurant charged $15 a person. So minus the one man band and you don't raise that much.

Teacher, got you going didn't I? LOL (And yes, the maximum capacity for that restaurant is 290 according to the Fire Authority, so don't say it isn't).

Teacher Dice:

Why is that you can question a candidate's qualifications with impunity, but anybody else asking reasonable questions about your candidate is either "trying . . . to discredit Dina" or spreading lies and rumors? I'm curious. It seems to me that if Supervisor Nguyen is to be subjected to your criticisms the same should apply to all candidates. You can't have it both ways.

As for what is good for the OC GOP, I for one think that having a slate of strong endorsed candidates makes the local party stronger, especially with a Democrat (albeit, a sham candidate) in the race. Again, I ask, why doesn't Dina want the party's endorsement? The silence on this question is deafening!

Slice-

I'm not here to defend whoever you're arguing with, but to use the fact that Dina's campaign is not going after the endorsement is a pretty weak argument. She's not the incumbent and the whole perspective her team has taken so far is that the OCGOP shouldn't weigh into this race because of the consequences in the Vietnamese community.

If you ask me, if she asked for the endorsement she would be betraying the very point she is trying to make.

I'm sure you're intelligent enough to see that, but I'm thinking you're just choosing not to.