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1st Supe District Watch: Janet Nguyen Wins OC GOP Endorsement Committee Recommendation

Posted by: Jubal | 04/08/2008 8:52 PM

I learned from Sup. Janet Nguyen's consultant Dave Gilliard the OC GOP Endorsement Committee tonight voted 5-1 to recommend her endorsement by the full Central Committee.

Mike Schroeder was the lone "No." I can't recall the entire make-up of the committee, but I do know that Westminster Councilman Kermit Marsh,  Nancy Padberg and  Jon Fleischman are also on it -- and I imagine they were among the 5 "yes" votes.

The big vote comes on April 21, when Janet will need to win a 2/3 thirds majority to obtain the  Republican Party of Orange County endorsement.

The big irony is you'll have usual foes Mike Schroeder and Tim Whitacre working on the same side of a Central Committee endorsement vote for a change. (Tim is Dina Nguyen''s campaign manager).

Comments

I was unable to make the meeting.
The other six members were there (in person or via phone).
They are: Kermit Marsh (Chairman), Valerie Dickerson, Nancy Padberg, Deb Pauly, Mike Schroeder and Mark Bucher.

cra republican said:

Jubal, the general consensus was "no endorsement" until unethically committee members were pressured by Dick Ackerman for Janet's endorsement.

Dick Ackerman is nearing his retirement age but he still wants to swing around his old cane stick to OC central committee members.


Dick Ackerman's solo dictatorship must be stopped.

Mark Bucher said:

CRA Republican:

Since I am on the endorsements committee, and therefore must be one of the unethical committee members that you are referring to, I can tell you that Dick Ackerman has never put any pressure on me.

Mark

Insider said:

Mark,

You are an ethical person but Dick Ackerman doesn't need to lobby your vote on this one. Everyone knows that you are supportive of Janet.

Just an honest observation.

cra republican said:

Mark, I said "unethically" referring to Dick Ackerman's pressuring activity to endorsement committee members. If he didn't call you then it's fine.

I don't have any problem with voting members for deciding either way. However, when elected public official like "Dick Ackerman" gets involved with independent central committee decision making process,I do see a significant problem with the integrity of our independent organization.

Dick Ackerman needs be reprimended.

Mark Bucher said:

CRA:

I don't understand why it would be unethical for Ackerman to make phone calls? Van made phone calls also, is that unethical?

Mark

student said:

Dick Ackerman personally has been pressuring my friends for this meeting endorsement.

Been Around said:

Van made phone calls against Janet.
Dick Ackerman, Mimi Walters and Pat Bates made phone calls for Janet.

Anonymous said:

This "Dick Ackerman's planned meeting" result has no value to the voters in 1st. Dist. Dina will win with big smile!

student said:

Did Mimi Walters really made calls for Janet?

Tim Whitacre said:

Jubal,

While I have chosen to endorse Dina Nguyen and will be working on her campaign, I am not the Campaign Manager. Whoever told you that gave you bad information.

Jon Fleischman,

You were not "unable to make the meeting." You CHOSE not to show up because you are working on getting Jack Anderson appointed to Sheriff and did not want to get in between Janet Nguyen and Mike Schroeder. I'm told the excuse you gave was that Scott Baugh personally told you not show up - which I find very hard to believe. Is that true, Jon? Did Scott actually tell you not to show up?

You volunteered to serve on that committee and you should have been there and stood tall like everyone else did. You then said you were going to call in and participate by phone but then refused to answere anyone's calls. Honestly, I'm tired of these kind of games. In my opinion, you should resign or be removed from both the Executive Committee and Endorsement Committee if you can't lead by GOOD example.

...Other then that, Janet performed better than Dina did tonight and rightfully won the committee's vote to recommend endorsement to the full Body. Kermit ran a good, fair meeting. I was very disappointed at the low turn out of Central Committee Members - maybe ten at best in an audience of no more than twenty-five.

Semper Fi,

Tim

why so short sighted said:

It is sad to see the OC GOP split the Viet community like this.

They are risking a real shot at the 47CD over WHICH vietnamese republican is supervisor.

We need a unified GOP team in Central OC if we are going to take out Loretta and retake our Congressional majority.

Unity is impossible with Janet as supervisor. She already stabbed Tran's team in the back too many times.

Anonymous said:

Jon Fleischman,

You're a real "profile in courage" in the tradition of Harry Truman. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen!

Such courage.

Anonymous said:

How does one expect us take out Loretta Sanchez if we allow a faction to eat one of our own in central Orange County?

We need to protect our wins in order to build upon them.

GOP Food said:

anon,

You mean with Janet Nguyen stabbing every other Republicans in the area while her paid helpers like Nick Le Cong and Andrew Do spraying rumors against them?

Anonymous said:

Tim 11:23

Thank you for your honesty in relating that Janet rightfully won the recommendation for endorsement. While the "Viet community" says the GOP is splitting them, not so. They are splitting themselves. They are/or should be Americans first.

Whenever Van Tran is brought up it's always about someone having done something to his "team". What this tells me is that indeed he has a "team" but not really in the good sense of American politics. He either has a number of "rogue agents" out there spreading stupidness about our sitting 1st district Supervisor; causing her a lot of grief with lawsuits; bad rumors, etc.

OR, conversely he cannot control his "team" to do the right things. He may not agree with Janet, he may have had problems relating with her, but I remember a comment he made to me one time.."Republicans should not be talking bad about other Republicans, this should stop"....only he was talking about someone else that he supported, not Janet.

Van Tran and team need to suck it up, stand up like Americans and do the right thing rather than the vindictive thing. Get over it and quit talking trash about a fellow republican. Practice what is preached.

Anonymous said:

Anon,

Let's clarify a few misinformation that you have.

1) The local GOP is causing further divisions by taking sides in the 1st Suope race. If the rift is already there, then why further cause it by taking sides between two Viet GOP candidates? What does the OC GOP have to gain other than alienating a substantial number of Viet Americans in the District and their GOP reps who prefer to see the Party staying out of this dispute?

2) The many problems that Janet Nguyen is suffering from now has its origin. It's been amply said on this blog and others that she created rifts and divisions between herself and other Viet GOP electeds, none of whom came out and endorsed her. They can't work with Janet and wanted nothing to do with her. Janet's betrayals have been catalouged and documented. A lot of people know about this.

Remember that she was a protege of Van Tran and was supported by other Viet electeds, including Trung Nguyen, until she went out of her way to burn her relationship with each and everyone of them.

3) Janet Nguyen can run for whatever seat she likes, but if there is a better and more mature GOP candidate who can work with everyone in the area, then let's have that race and give the voters a choice.

4) Nobody on Team Tran needs to suck up to anything, or to anybody. Perhaps those who support Janet can't, or refuse to hear the truth and try to label it as "Talking trash". Well, what if there is trash in Janet's house and it needs to be exposed? Can you all bear to smell it and face reality?

student said:

Anon.10:24, Think before you speak...the majority of republican voters from central OC does not acknowledge Janet as their republican official as well as all current locally elected Viet community leaders.

This is the precise reason why Janet is trying to buy and lure their support with Vietnamese exclusive $2.5 million bridge BAIT!


Everyone in Viet. community believe she acts , speaks and wants to spend our tax payer's money like a democrat......draining already scarce resources to first serve her own interest.

What a good timing for Dick Ackerman to attach his old name next to controversial Janet's name.

Art Pedroza said:

Tim W.,

You are the LAST MAN who ought to be ripping anyone regarding GOP endorsements. In 2006 you actively supported DEMOCRATS against the endorsed GOP Council candidates in Santa Ana. One of them, Evangeline Gawronski, went on to lose by only 600 votes to a Democrat. I know for a fact that you personally called community leaders and GOP activists to beg them not to help Gawronski. And to this day you have never apologized for doing that. BTW, it was great comedy to see your Democrat candidate against Gawronski go down in flames. I believe he had the lowest number of votes in that ward.

You also backstabbed the endorsed GOP Assembly candidate in 2006. But you know that already, don't you?

I don't know why you are so against Supervisor Janet Nguyen, but I guess I should not be surprised. How much are the Trannies paying you to promote Dina? Shame on you Tim. Working against an elected incumbent from your own party is about the worst thing you have done yet. Bad enough you cannot find it within yourself to support your candidates, but now you are going against your incumbents. Have you no shame?

Anonymous said:

Anon 11:18 I have repeatedly asked for EXAMPLES of all these supposed betrayals and backstabbings, but no one comes forth with anything, no stories about Janet doing this or that. Why? Would you be slandering her if you did that? Why don't you relate these supposed crimes Janet has supposedly committed? Because really all she has done is defy the establishment; and not take orders from the "established Viet political power players". Personally I like that she is an independent thinker. Your other elected Viet's are not endorsing her because she is that independent thinker. Amazing.

Anonymous said:

Student 11:53
You said: ..."the majority of republican voters from central OC does not acknowledge Janet as their republican official as well as all current locally elected Viet community leaders."

Perchance you should think before you speak, the "majority" in the first district do in fact acknowledge Janet as their republican official. Perhaps the current locally elected Viet Community Leaders do not, but then they all belong to the same club.

Pedrozabot said:

Art Pedroza demanding Tim Whitacre "apologize"

That's what I call a "laugh riot"!

Anyone notice how Art's is constantly demanding other people apologize for basically disagreeing with him on an issue or candidate?

And this from a guy who never, ever apologizes for routinely getting his facts wrong, personally maligning others and just flat-out lying!

If Art is demanding Whitacre "apologize," then Tim must be doing something right.


Truth Teller said:

Anon @ 2:15 PM,

Call Garden Grove School Board President Lan Nguyen. His law office is in Westminster. He'll lay out all of Janet Nguyen's crimes for you to hear, if you dare to learn. He was also a supporter and so-vccalled "big brother" befrore Janet put a knife into him as well.

Talk to Scott Baugh and Kermit Marsh off the record and they'll tell you of Janet Nguyen's crimes. Please do if you can take the truth.

None of the Viet electeds can work with Janet because she is not to be trusted. That's being very kind.

There's a thin line between being an "independent thinker" and being a loose cannon and political pariah. That's what Janet Nguyen is.

Please don't tell us that her opponents are not independent. Don't insult the intelligence of the readers of this blog by stereotyping people who opopose and want nothing to do with Janet Nguyen.

student said:

Anon.2:18, Yeah, you know Janet is your supervisor because you get paid working for "Spending Spree" Janet on the 5th. Floor.


Get off from the county owned computer and Drag your lazy body over to the street.


Tell Viet voters you work for Janet!

they will reply;
"Who Janet? the welfare office manager in Little Saigon who wants to give us $2.5 million bridge for free?"

For the record Scott Baugh did not "direct me" to do anything. In fact, he made it clear to me (and presumably any other committee members who asked him) that he expected us to vote our conscience.

That said, I had to make a judgement call between participating in the meeting, and missing a very important family occasion.

I chose to prioritize the family issue.

That's it, end of story. No hidden agenda.

Art Pedroza said:

2:36,

The GOP candidates that Tim stabbed in the back were ENDORSED by the OC GOP. That ought to matter to you people.

One who knows said:

Arturo Pedroza,
Your "facts" are whatever your sick little demented mind comes up with at the moment to malign or attack someone you don't like which is pretty much anybody who has been around you for six months or so. I know both of you. I also know what happened in Santa Ana which is why I can say you're lying sack of shallots. You will say and do anything to try and discredit Tim because he's never played your games or kissed your ring. The candiates you speak of in Santa Ana were endorsed because Tim gave the nod to the endorsement committee to do so. That is a fact. I was there.

Just knowing that Tim supports Dina and you support Janet is enough for me and most people in Santa Ana to support Dina. Janet Nguyen actually made you a county commissioner for a short time. That in itself speaks volumes about who she is and what she stands for. The only person in Orange County who has burned more bridges than Janet is you. LOL. Keep pushing for Janet, Arturo.

Tim is right, we should stay out of this race.

One who knows said:

Arturo Pedroza,
Your "facts" are whatever your sick little demented mind comes up with at the moment to malign or attack someone you don't like which is pretty much anybody who has been around you for six months or so. I know both of you. I also know what happened in Santa Ana which is why I can say you're lying sack of shallots. You will say and do anything to try and discredit Tim because he's never played your games or kissed your ring.

Just knowing that Tim supports Dina and you support Janet is enough for me and most people in Santa Ana to support Dina. Janet Nguyen actually made you a county commissioner for a short time. That in itself speaks volumes about who she is and what she stands for. The only person in Orange County who has burned more bridges than Janet is you. LOL. Keep pushing for Janet, Arturo.

Tim is right, we should stay out of this race.

One who knows said:

Sorry about the double posting. The stupid vefifying part of your blog gave me an error message and I thought I lost my original posting and started typing again only to see both here when the 2nd one went through.

Eldad Taylor said:

If Janet Nguyen is so hated in central county, how is it that she defeated Van Tran's hand-picked candidate (Trung Nguyen), the Democrat Party's hand-picked candidate (Tom Umburg), and the GOP establishment's hand-picked candidate (Carlos Bustamante)?


Got Lucky said:

Taylor,

This must be a rhetorical question from you since it has very little substance.

Let's get a few facts out if you like to rehash the old campaign from last year:

1) Janet spent almost TWICE the money as Trung and still lost on the raw vote. That's why she was in deep political debt to Gilliard when the election is over.

2) Janet was quite fortunate in that she's the only high profile fenmale candidate among the top four candidates, three of whom are men.

3) According to several polling surveys, Trung by far, got the lowest name ID amongst the four but still came out on top.

4) At least a couple hundred votes were marked off at the last box for Trung but was disqualified.

5) Keep in mind that Trung won by 7 raw votes until Janet hired Dem Lawyer Fred Woocher to disqualify the vote lead by Trung.

6) Post election polling also shows that Trung beat Janet by about 10% in the Viet Community.

To follow your logic about Janet: just look at George Bush, who won a disputed election against Al Gore. Look at his numbers now. Very well loved right?

Eldad Taylor said:

A win's a win. Lucky or not, she beat the establishment - everybody's establishement. By the way, your facts numbered 1, 4 and 5 are flat wrong and I suspect 6 is as well. But you are right about fact 2.

Got Lucky said:

A disputed win is a disputed win that leads to lawsuits and controversy. That is why Janet Nguyen is so vulnerable right now. Are you disputing that?

Facts are facts. It's public information. Yet, you refuse to accept the facts. You provide no proof to the contrary other than blow hot air.

Re: Eldad Taylor said:

As a matter of fact Mr. Taylor, Janet only beat Tom Umberg and Carlos Bustamante BECAUSE Trung was in the race as well. If it weren't for his team's turnout operation she would have been decimated.

Once Trung's numbers went from worst to best in a matter of 3 weeks, him and Van had to decide whether to stop what they were doing in fear of helping Janet (like they did) or go for the win.

If their only motivation was to ensure that Janet lost, all they would have had to do was send mail and not run a strong turnout operation. Even Janet's team admitted that Trung's campaign ran a MUCH better shop. Instead of taking the safe route Trung and Van decided to go for the win, and they won. It's just too bad that our county party looks the other way when one of our own cozies up to Democrat/Union lawyers to steal away a rightful Republican win.

Anonymous said:

Janet is a Republican too. She won. Get over it. It was a recount that was U-Tubed, you can go watch it. People checking a box next to an empty line and not writing in the candidates name are not "countable". Maybe they should have gotten better instructions on how to vote from the people that go to their neighborhoods, sign them up to vote and help them vote and take their ballots to the ballot box and drop them in for them.

Anonymous said:

The Anti Janet folks, who are numerous, are way over the controversial and disputed election contest. It's a new game and Team Dina is happy to engage.

Anonymous said:

You mean Team Tran?

Anonymous said:

I mean Team Dina with many other groups happy to help her against your Janet.

Anonymous said:

Student/Anonymous 1:20: She's gonna need a big team. But we all know she is just another puppet of the Tran Machine. Don't insult our intelligence by trying to make believe she is not.

PhotoShop said:

If the Trung/Tran team had not doctored that photo with Arnold he might have won. Now I hear that the guy who did the doctoring is working for Dina. No wonder she looks 20 years younger in her photos than she does in real life!

Anonymous said:

Anonm at 3:54 PM,

Worry about your own Janet Team. All you know is call people names and spread false rumors. Janet's already in trouble and you are making irrelevant noise on the blogs. Go put up a Janet sign or something. Please.

Anonymous said:

Photoshop,

Dina looks wayyyyy better at 42 than Janet at 31. Don't need to photo shop anything on this one. Perhaps Janet may want to doctor her face a bit. She's losing on that end too.

Arthur Tran said:

Janet is not working with any of the Viet electeds because all Viet electeds are Trannies and they follow his lead that's why none are willing to work with Janet. They are just followers.

Anonymous said:

Janet is a leader? Please don't insult our voters.

Anonymous said:

Dina is qualified? Please don't insult our voters.

Anonymous said:

Is janet connected to Commies? Yes, ask Eric Le, Nick Lecong and Tony Lam.

Is Dina said:

Ask Bac Pham and the rest of the partners of the Ramada since thats where they all stay!

Anonymous said:

You meant all threesome has his own room there.

Anonymous said:

Arthur,

Easy to call other people names. You must be a juvenile who's not old enough to vote for our elected leaders in the Viet community. BTW, wasn't Janet Nguyen a Trannie herself until she stabbed him and his friends in the back several times? She was was she not? Yes!!

You need to get a lesson in civility and courtesy before calling other people names or you'll be called a kid, in which you are one in your own post.

Idiot Arthur said:

Arthur's an idiot. Don't even bother to pay attention to him

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