The OC Register recently released the redacted transcripts of a secretly recorded conversation between Donald Haidl and former Sheriff Mike Carona. No point in trying to analyze this. Just download and read the transcript yourself. Click on the following link: carona_redacted_doc.pdf.
Thanks for finally owning up on Corona OC Blog. Matt couldn't do it, surprise, surprise. This story has been out for hours and hours. Republican Sheriff with a scads of illegal cash, nice..............
Sam said:
That's right Speedy. Huge news with a smoking gun and what do we have here and the OC party as a whole? The sound of silence. That's the problem with our party. Don't own up, have Schroeder speak for Carona, have Probolsky speak for Anderson. The lemmings in the committee duck for cover. It then hits the fan and the entire Republican party for the County is holding the bag. Way to go guys. The problem now can only get worse and it will.
P.S. As for the title and question mark, Ya think?
Dan Chmielewski said:
The redacted version; oh please!
The Captain said:
This is the same version as posted by the OC Register...I'm not sure why SCott even pointed out that it was "redacted"
The only thing readacted is all of the curse words. Carona sure has a filthy mouth and is very creative with it. I also like the insight into Caraon the man.
Some of my favorite quotes
I'ts like ordering the #%(*&@#$ crab cake. I hate crab, man.
Carona to Haidly: I know you've been a stand up mother-#%#@$
Haidl: "I've got no problem lying my ass off"
Haidl: "These feds are smart, man ... getting down to corporations where you can't take the Fifth and stuff"
Carona: "[the feds are] annoying but they aren't stupid"
Clearly not as stupid as you, Mike.
Disappointed OC Resident said:
It is unfortunate Orange County had a corrupt Sheriff. Just as unfortunate is that such people have enablers and henchmen who do not get to share in the public humiliation they deserve.
What about all those people who KNEW Carona was corrupt and continued to support him, endorse him, speak for him, consult for him, and write glowing accolades about him? Their judgment should be questioned. Their reputations should be damaged. Aren't they complicit (not necessarily in a legal sense) for foisting this scoundrel on an unsuspecting public?
Who are these people, these shills who promoted Carona, not for the public good, but for reasons of self-interest and personal profit? Really... who are they?
I suspect most of these folks are Republicans. But they should still be called out so we can consider their poor judgment and take their future endorsements with a very large grain of salt.
Scott Graves said:
I posted this to further encourage people to just read the document themselves. No need to have a blogger or a journalist read it for you and offer a filtered interpretation.
Just read it yourself and draw your own conclusions. As the case progresses, there will be plenty of time for analysis.
Bunk said:
Plenty of Time for Analysis, Bunk, Corona is crook end and you guys enabled him. Shame on you! Party of family values? Mafia family values, perhaps. Whenever someone says later there will be time for analysis, really means they don't want to air out their dirty laundry. Fess up and admit you were wrong to back this criminal and back a new person who has integrity not some party hack.
Anonymous said:
Bunk: You're making sweeping generalizations by saying all OC Republicans are to blame for Carona. Nonsense. In fact, it was just few who "sold" Carona to the rest of us and those people should be called out. Obviously their judgment is suspect.
8AF said:
This is a bit more egregious than just a lapse in reporting boxing tickets and being pursued by overzealous prosecutors.
Does anyone believe the rest of the tape and/or evidence the feds have in this case will only get worse for Carona?
Dan Chmielewski said:
The LA Times posted the unedited transcripts; I particular enjoy the former sheriff's habit of dropping an expletive in the middle of an adjective.
Innocent Until PROVEN Guilty said:
Shame on you all! In America everyone has a right to a fair trial before a judge. We don’t have all the facts yet. It is for a jury of his peers and a judge to determine his guilt. This is a rush to judgment bla bla bla pap pap pap drivel drivel.
Where’s the apology from all the knucklehead Corona Defenders who lambasted activists that called on him to resign before a trial? If everyone kept quiet about criticizing “America’s Sheriff” now would it be okay to call on him to step down?
How about someone in the ‘Bully’ Corona camp offer an apology to their fellow Republican activists like John Moorlach who asked Corona to step down when all the charges came forward.
Where’s that idiot (Headlights ON! Headlights ON!)
redperegrine said:
rich white guy was (is) one of the most brilliant politica/social satirists I have ever encountered. His presence has been sorely missed of late.
As I recall, Red County's writers, particularly Matt Cunningham, were major cheerleaders for Carona during his last campaign. Will any of them be apologizing now that it is 100% obvious that Carona was guilty - just as OC Weekly, and may local bloggers (such as myself and Allan Bartlett) has been saying forever?
scott said:
As I recall, OC Weekly also supported Carona in 1998.
Anonymous said:
Oh for God's sake, you sound like a bunch of finger-pointing 6th graders. Carona brought whatever he will get upon himself with a handful of inside fellow "participants" in his schemes. That the majority of the OCRP couldn't know about it would be presumed. Do you think they would risk their reputations to support someone they would suspect was a crook? No, and neither would you. Those that supported him probably believed in him as an honest, "America's Sheriff" good guy. From all the hype in the papers (which now condemn him) I liked the guy too. Did I know what he was up to behind the scenes? No. Neither did most of everyone else or he could not have continued those practices for as long as he did.
Quit laying blame at the feet of "those who supported him" and just let the wheels of justice work. Can't anything happen here without it being a dogfight?
Thanks for finally owning up on Corona OC Blog. Matt couldn't do it, surprise, surprise. This story has been out for hours and hours. Republican Sheriff with a scads of illegal cash, nice..............
That's right Speedy. Huge news with a smoking gun and what do we have here and the OC party as a whole? The sound of silence. That's the problem with our party. Don't own up, have Schroeder speak for Carona, have Probolsky speak for Anderson. The lemmings in the committee duck for cover. It then hits the fan and the entire Republican party for the County is holding the bag. Way to go guys. The problem now can only get worse and it will.
P.S. As for the title and question mark, Ya think?
The redacted version; oh please!
This is the same version as posted by the OC Register...I'm not sure why SCott even pointed out that it was "redacted"
The only thing readacted is all of the curse words. Carona sure has a filthy mouth and is very creative with it. I also like the insight into Caraon the man.
Some of my favorite quotes
I'ts like ordering the #%(*&@#$ crab cake. I hate crab, man.
Carona to Haidly: I know you've been a stand up mother-#%#@$
Haidl: "I've got no problem lying my ass off"
Haidl: "These feds are smart, man ... getting down to corporations where you can't take the Fifth and stuff"
Carona: "[the feds are] annoying but they aren't stupid"
Clearly not as stupid as you, Mike.
It is unfortunate Orange County had a corrupt Sheriff. Just as unfortunate is that such people have enablers and henchmen who do not get to share in the public humiliation they deserve.
What about all those people who KNEW Carona was corrupt and continued to support him, endorse him, speak for him, consult for him, and write glowing accolades about him? Their judgment should be questioned. Their reputations should be damaged. Aren't they complicit (not necessarily in a legal sense) for foisting this scoundrel on an unsuspecting public?
Who are these people, these shills who promoted Carona, not for the public good, but for reasons of self-interest and personal profit? Really... who are they?
I suspect most of these folks are Republicans. But they should still be called out so we can consider their poor judgment and take their future endorsements with a very large grain of salt.
I posted this to further encourage people to just read the document themselves. No need to have a blogger or a journalist read it for you and offer a filtered interpretation.
Just read it yourself and draw your own conclusions. As the case progresses, there will be plenty of time for analysis.
Plenty of Time for Analysis, Bunk, Corona is crook end and you guys enabled him. Shame on you! Party of family values? Mafia family values, perhaps. Whenever someone says later there will be time for analysis, really means they don't want to air out their dirty laundry. Fess up and admit you were wrong to back this criminal and back a new person who has integrity not some party hack.
Bunk: You're making sweeping generalizations by saying all OC Republicans are to blame for Carona. Nonsense. In fact, it was just few who "sold" Carona to the rest of us and those people should be called out. Obviously their judgment is suspect.
This is a bit more egregious than just a lapse in reporting boxing tickets and being pursued by overzealous prosecutors.
Does anyone believe the rest of the tape and/or evidence the feds have in this case will only get worse for Carona?
The LA Times posted the unedited transcripts; I particular enjoy the former sheriff's habit of dropping an expletive in the middle of an adjective.
Shame on you all! In America everyone has a right to a fair trial before a judge. We don’t have all the facts yet. It is for a jury of his peers and a judge to determine his guilt. This is a rush to judgment bla bla bla pap pap pap drivel drivel.
Where’s the apology from all the knucklehead Corona Defenders who lambasted activists that called on him to resign before a trial? If everyone kept quiet about criticizing “America’s Sheriff” now would it be okay to call on him to step down?
How about someone in the ‘Bully’ Corona camp offer an apology to their fellow Republican activists like John Moorlach who asked Corona to step down when all the charges came forward.
Where’s that idiot (Headlights ON! Headlights ON!)
rich white guy was (is) one of the most brilliant politica/social satirists I have ever encountered. His presence has been sorely missed of late.
Yeah I miss all the "headlights on" smack about Carona from that guy. Where is he? I'm sure he has a perfectly good explantion for these tapes.
Does anyone know what happen to the carona chronicles website?
SORRY!
Scott,
As I recall, Red County's writers, particularly Matt Cunningham, were major cheerleaders for Carona during his last campaign. Will any of them be apologizing now that it is 100% obvious that Carona was guilty - just as OC Weekly, and may local bloggers (such as myself and Allan Bartlett) has been saying forever?
As I recall, OC Weekly also supported Carona in 1998.
Oh for God's sake, you sound like a bunch of finger-pointing 6th graders. Carona brought whatever he will get upon himself with a handful of inside fellow "participants" in his schemes. That the majority of the OCRP couldn't know about it would be presumed. Do you think they would risk their reputations to support someone they would suspect was a crook? No, and neither would you. Those that supported him probably believed in him as an honest, "America's Sheriff" good guy. From all the hype in the papers (which now condemn him) I liked the guy too. Did I know what he was up to behind the scenes? No. Neither did most of everyone else or he could not have continued those practices for as long as he did.
Quit laying blame at the feet of "those who supported him" and just let the wheels of justice work. Can't anything happen here without it being a dogfight?