No Money: What are they (Trung and Dina Nguyen) thinking???
Posted by: Adam D. Probolsky | 02/22/2008 10:31 AM
As a supporter of/consultant to Supervisor Janet Nguyen I look at things like what the "competition" is up to.
Well it turns out this year that the competition is pretty weak.
According to the July - December 2007 campaign financial filings, Trung Nguyen the school board trustee that lost to Janet last year, has raised NO MONEY (other than a loan of just under $3000 from himself to his committee).
In fact he has outstanding debt of over $259,000. Here is how that breaks down...
It also appears that Trung terminated both Friends of Trung Nguyen (a committee he used for his failed water board race) and Friends of Trung Nguyen (a committee he used for his campaign for the Garden Grove Unified School District race in 2004).
The only other candidate of substance, Dina Nguyen who is a Garden Grove Councilwoman, has raised something like $29.00 in the last six months. I am afraid Councilwoman Dina Nguyen is being used by outside forces--pressuring her to stay in the race simply to hurt Supervisor Janet Nguyen's chances of coalescing the community behind her re-election bid.
Councilwoman Dina Nguyen has just over $1,000 cash on hand in her council campaign account and outstanding debts of $30,000.
I fully understand Trung Nguyen's motivations, which has little to do with actually running for county supervisor--he desperately needs to raise some of that quarter-million dollar debt so he can pay himself back, maybe pay-off a credit card bill or home equity line.
Supervisor Nguyen on the other hand raised over $180,000 in the last six months of 2007 and reported over $150,000 cash on hand. Her debts total $39,000 but she has already paid 75k toward campaign expenses, most of which will benefit her in June.
So at about four months from Election Day and about three months from the time the first vote-by-mail ballots drop, it seems like Supervisor JANET Nguyen who has lots of fund raising prospects yet to come, will be well funded. And her "opponents" are sourly lacking in financial wherewithal.
Well it turns out this year that the competition is pretty weak.
According to the July - December 2007 campaign financial filings, Trung Nguyen the school board trustee that lost to Janet last year, has raised NO MONEY (other than a loan of just under $3000 from himself to his committee).
In fact he has outstanding debt of over $259,000. Here is how that breaks down...
Rutan & Tucker: $21,000
Little Saigon Radio: $2,000
Loan from himself: $236,939
Its good to see that Trung has been making good on his debt, he recently paid Rutan & Tucker (the law firm that represented him) $2,939.34 (the exact amount of the recent personal loan he made to his committee).It also appears that Trung terminated both Friends of Trung Nguyen (a committee he used for his failed water board race) and Friends of Trung Nguyen (a committee he used for his campaign for the Garden Grove Unified School District race in 2004).
The only other candidate of substance, Dina Nguyen who is a Garden Grove Councilwoman, has raised something like $29.00 in the last six months. I am afraid Councilwoman Dina Nguyen is being used by outside forces--pressuring her to stay in the race simply to hurt Supervisor Janet Nguyen's chances of coalescing the community behind her re-election bid.
Councilwoman Dina Nguyen has just over $1,000 cash on hand in her council campaign account and outstanding debts of $30,000.
I fully understand Trung Nguyen's motivations, which has little to do with actually running for county supervisor--he desperately needs to raise some of that quarter-million dollar debt so he can pay himself back, maybe pay-off a credit card bill or home equity line.
Supervisor Nguyen on the other hand raised over $180,000 in the last six months of 2007 and reported over $150,000 cash on hand. Her debts total $39,000 but she has already paid 75k toward campaign expenses, most of which will benefit her in June.
So at about four months from Election Day and about three months from the time the first vote-by-mail ballots drop, it seems like Supervisor JANET Nguyen who has lots of fund raising prospects yet to come, will be well funded. And her "opponents" are sourly lacking in financial wherewithal.
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We all know what these candidacies are about. The goal of her enemies has always been to destroy Janet, even if it means electing a Democrat. People like Dina and Trung are just tools of the one pulling the strings.
I don't think Trung works for Rutan.
This is just embarrassing for Trung and Dina.
For all the chest pounding that goes on this blog, it looks like neither of these two candidates are even trying to look like their making an effort to win.
Is the baton going to be passed to Westminster Councilman Andy Quach? At least he knows how to bring in the bags of cash.
Adam, you need to remember............
Dina is favored over Janet by 73% to 27% by the would be Vietnamese republican voters in the latest poll.
You do the math, I figure Janet probably need another $2,000,000 to come anywhere close to Dina before the June Primary.
Hence, Janet is short by minimum $1.85 Millon in campaign funds.
This is a significant margin and certainly Janet has no chance (in her foolish amition) to retain her tainted 1st Supervisorial seat.
Trung and Dina will start sending invitations for fund raising events and all real conservative republicans will be invited to attend.
Student, what are you smoking?
This is just getting stupid.
Anon. 2:58, I don't smoke but I study local politics for the past 20 years..... and yes, I am proud conservative republican.
I am stating the facts and your boss Janet is in BIG trouble!
Dina is favored over Janet by 73% to 27% by the would be Vietnamese republican voters currently employed in Van Tran's office.
Been around the wrong places, If the Trannies were surveyed, it would be Dina winning by 100% to 0%.
Again, the latest poll shows Dina is favored over Janet by 73% to 27% in republican Vietnamese community.
Student.....you need to go back or stay in school. Janet is short by $1.85 million ?? In terms of Orange County standards Janet is certainly not flush with cash; but she has enough to win this race against the other canidates. Further the idea that the others are going to raise enough money in the short weeks that remain before the balloting begins is unlikely by any thoughtful standard.
Dina and Trung are history. The historical implication related to them is the tremendous loss of power of Van Tran; who will be viewed as the once powerful guy in Little Saigon who couldn't even field a legitimate canidate to even be competitive with Janet.
If Van is unable to field a competitive canidate on the Board of Supervisors for the district including Little Saigon there will not only be a new Sheriff in OC there will be a new Sheriff in Little Saigon and her name will be Janet Nguyen.
Anon.3:42 aka Janet's campaign staffer, I am too old to go back to school but I may give you some free classes in Local Politics 101.
Your boss Janet is loosing in big margin against Dina and Dina hasn't even started campaigning yet.... Never mind Tran or the Trannies issue........ Your boss is going to lose her seat.
She really needs to raise millions of dollars to buy votes in this primary alone!
As a paid staffer, you need to seek after more "GREEN" and pour it all to the Vietnamese liberals. Janet was receiving more supports from the Independents and the liberals during the survey.
Really a poll huh!!!! Then who paid for this poll and what were the questions. Just ridiculous. I thought Trung also had a poll last year that favored him 75 to 25... LOL
Hey Student so Trung and Dina will break the law and campaign together. Thanks for the Tip
Dina a conservative bull crap!!!! Ask her the names of the fathers of her children... You will find not 1 not at least 2 men that fathered her children.... wow 3 kids with multiple men I call that a real Conservative.
"Poll...." aka paid staffer for Janet, there is no time for you paid workers to gossip and waste good old time in the office.
If you can't produce more "green" or liberal votes quickly for sinking Janet................ send multiple job applications to Obama HQs...... ask Art for the mailing address.
"Student" aka paid staffer to Van Tran... Get back to work.
Re.Student. 4:38 I don't work for the Trannies nor get paid from losing politician.
You need to look for a new job and I might be able to help you later.
Student:
Your comments spread across these blogs display your ill-temper. Is it just gossip that Dina Nguyen has three children by three different fathers and has been married to none of them? Is she running on a family values platform? Interesting.
With all the hate and angst spread by your champ Trung, I seriously doubt he has a chance at this race. He lost last time, he will lose again.
Van Tran should be able to accept that people have opinions that don't agree with his, make peace with them and go on. That makes a true representative, not one who seeks to destroy those who differ with his opinion.
Student you need to go back to school and learn some nicer ways to express yourself. YOu sound like a curmudgeon.
Anon.5:05, I don't have to please anyone because I am not running for the office in question...... but your losing boss Janet is..........
It is well known fact that Dina is favored by 30+ points against Janet from the conservatives and I am only stating the real facts here.
I don't have clear solution to help Janet at this point because I only support real conservative republican leaders.
I think Janet should step down and support Dina as next Supervisor to bring peace in our republican community.
Student, you need to go to detention. I am not a Janet staffer. I am just a mere mortal observer. There is very little if any chance that Dina will be able to raise the money in time to even be competitive with Janet.
Political power is not measured by emotion. It is measured by the ability to raise money and field canidates that are competitive. Van had this power for many years. His strength now can be measured by his inability to raise money for a Viet canidate in the Supes race and to field a competitive canidate.
Van had a great and admirable run but he is losing strength and viability. This is not a new phenonemon; it is a very predictable course that is part of the political landscape.
Janet beat his machine by the slimmest of margins but she delivered a knock out punch to him in terms of this district. Maybe he is playing a rope-a-dope strategy and he will come off the ropes with a huge surprise and deliver a winner but it looks doubtful. And we all know in the extremely competitive world of politics; if you are not a winner you are a loser.
Adam,
Janet's goal is to receive 50% plus 1 vote to avoid the run off in November. With Hoa Tran, Dina Nguyen, and Trung Nguyen in the mix, Janet is in trouble to lose all money raised so far, and she needs to raise a whole lot more than $150K to fend off Hoa Tran, Dina Nguyen and Trung Nguyen.
In addition, other candidates will show up soon; the union is planning to spend $500K to put up their competitive candidate. So let see how much Janet can raise to fend off all challengers; 150K is a small change in this race.
Janet's day is numbered.
Anon.5:57, "I am a just mortal observer FOR JANET",
1)Dina will raise enough money to spread to 40+ point gap because conservative republicans will help.. ie.me
2)Van is losing srength........ yes from the left liberals .............. but he is highly respected by the conservative republican communities around the state of California and his political support has been growing strong each year. If your political landscape theory is correct, why do we have all these experienced elected officials still in the powerful offices? How about John McCain?. You must have received F in your Pol. Sci 101 class!
3)Janet has hired liberal lawyers for tricky/unethical recount procedure..... finally stealing the seat from fellow republican winner Trung and we, coservative republicans are not proud of her conduct. She is far from being a winner but she is a loser/cheater.
Don't even try to compare Janet Nguyen, who was a student, and a bad one at that, of Van Tran -- to Van Tran. It's a joke. Everyone in the Viet community knows this. As much as you think Janet Nguyen is on par with Van Tran, she's not even a shadow.
How many electeds did Janet Ngueyn help and how many voters did she registered? Zip! She does not have an operation nor does she have a loyal follwoing of political activists. Don't get too big for your little brithces. False hubris and arrogance are the reasons why people hate youtr Little Janet.
Just look at the McCain phenomenon in the OC and in Central Orange County on Super Tuesday and you will learn your lesson on how Van Tran and his machine operates.
Adam,
The money game is still early yet. I would not get into the habit of crowing. Let's see who's crying and crowing by the next filing. Are you saying that they are not out raising moeny now? If you are, more power to you!
Keep in mind, money is but one factor in this race. The dynamics of this June race are very different from last year and Janet Nguyen is having have huge problems.
The money that she raised within the last year and early this year is not that impressive, on top of the debt that she has now. I wouldn't wirte home to mom about how good she's doing, nor would I under-estimate my opponments, either.
To the two Janet Nguyen bloggers,
Janet Nguyen can't even shoot straight, other than into her own foot. New sheriff in Little Saigon? She got no deputies other than the hired help the likes of Matt Harper, Andrew Do, and Nick Lecong.
We suggest that she save herself first because gher days are numbered on the Board.
Talk abnout jealousy and envy of the Van Tran operation and the man himself! What a joke.
Mr. Probolsky:
Reverse pyschology seems to be at work here. But you're not fooling anybody. Without updated info, you knock on Dina and Trung Nguyen for their perceived lack of campaign funds. But in reality, everyone knows that you, Janet Nguyen, and her employees are worried about the upcoming race.
If you believe in your own propaganda, then I say, "please do". If Dina and Trung are not serious contenders, why are you so hard up in your attempt to knock them? You're worried, and rightfully so. Everyone knows.
Adam and Janet are afraid of losing easy JOBS and having less money to buy groceries for the family.
Adam,
Keep on thinking that you and Janet are ahead on the money front. Trung and Dina would like that.
You must be crazy to think that 150K with a 40K debt is enough. She can have 500K by June and it's still not enough. Dêp down, you know it's true.
Janet Nguyen,
Don't even bother to compare yourself with Assemblyman Van Tran and his team. You are not worthy of walking in his shadow, as much as you dream to be on par with him.
Try another 15 years of hard work and toil within the GOP. Then, maybe, just maybe, you can come back and knock on his door.
Hey Adam,
As a supporter of the defunct campaign of Mitt Romney, who outspent John McCain by 7 to 1 in California, you still have not learned your money lesson. As a so-called political consultant, you are quite dim on this issue.
Ask Mitt who won California despite his busloads of dollars. Worse yet for you, Adam, who won Orange County? Need any of us say more?
Adam,
Ask Mike Huckabee, how much did he spend in his election? Where is Mitt Romney now? Were you one of his money gurus? And Clinton's money advantage didn't help her to pass the last 10 primaries.
So much for a political consultant figurehead.
It is hilarious to see that you, Adam Probolsky, can't seem to figure out the Vietnamese community. Why do think Trung Nguyen got so many votes, and did in fact beat Janet on the raw count, with less money and the lowest name ID, according to your funny poll?
Keep on talking and thinking the way you are now because you and your little client are in for an ugly surprise. Cheers!
Surprise, Surprise,
The REAL surprise is that "Trannie" Madison Nguyen, the Democrat the Trannies helped to get elected in San Jose, is now facing a recall! She PO'd everyone in town when she went against the desires of the community to name part of San Jose "Little Saigon." Madison preferred "Saigon Business District." She even broke the law to get the Council to back her idea. Now the Council is going to have to vacate that vote. And it looks like the Trannies have blown it again...
Oh Artie, you finally spoke up and spew your venom on this blog. Just woke up, heh? Welcome aboard.
Arturo de Piedra, got home late from "Latino Amigos for Obama" campaign meeting? or have you been drawing new Santa Ana maps on the neighbor's walls again? Next time, you will be send to Singapore.....
Concentrating in keep supporting your MAN, Obama!
Hey bloggers, please be easy on Adam! He is only doing his job as a paid cheer leader.
I feel bad for Adam D. Probolsky because deep down, he also realizes that he is dancing for the wrong person. Janet does not have the qualities to be a leader.....
Adam, go work for a real, well-respected republican leaders in our community.
Student:
Tell you what. Why don't you settle the matter by sending me this alleged "poll"? Then I can post on whether it is real or not.
Frankly, I don't believe it. But you're welcome to prove me wrong.
Matt,
The 1:39 a.m. comment ought to be deleted, in my estimate. It hits below the belt, literally.
Thanks.
CRA Republican,
Laugh while you can. If Obama is the nominee I suspect he is going to spank John "I love lobbyists" McCain.
Arturo at 9:05AM
Art is now a self-appointed moral watcher. Good grief!
As long as Arturo is in cahoots with Janet she will never receive my vote.
Art is a venom no matter from what party you are from.
Correction,
As long as Arturo is in cahoots with Janet she will never receive my vote.
Art is a venom no matter what party you are from.
Art,
Please don't open anoyther can of "whoop ass" by writing your non-sense on this blog. People just despise you for who you are. Haven't you been kicked around enough? Give yourself a rest.
Boys and girls from Camp Janet,
Look at how John McCain did in Orange County earlier this month and learn from Team Tran. You kids got a loooong way to go.
Art, you have been very popular among left liberals but not with conservative republicans
The number of posts on this issue demonstrate the intensity of the battle between Van and Janet. This race will be a barometer of their respetive strengths and who will be the new sheriff in Little Saigon.
This head to head match has been brewing since the special election (recounts, lawsuits etc.). Now it is time to test the strength of the contenders. Whether one likes it or not Janet has stepped into the ring and is in her corner. Van hasn't even shown up to the arena yet. This is a winner take all match. From a political perspective if Van loses its the begining of the end for him. Like it or not that's the way it is in politics...a few significant loses and lights out. And the way this race is shaping up..Good Night Van.
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Anon, aka Janet Bonikowski?,
Don't even try to pit yourself with Assemblyman Van Tran. It's a joke not worthy of Jay Leno. The day when you actually run against Van Tran for something, which is actually welcome by his friends and allies because he would love to put you out of everyone's misery, then you can talk about being in the same ring. Otherwise, stay in your little corner and worry about your own problems, which are many.
This little Supe race, at best, is to determine whether YOU, incumbent Janet Nguyen, will surive at the polls or not, either in June or November. Don't try to make it a contest between you and Van Tran, when it is not. You should worry about Trung Nguyen and Dina Nguyen and the day when you lose. There is no proxy war here other than youer own self-survival. Your name and Trung Nguyen and Dina Nguyen's names are on the ballot, along with Hoa Tran, and who ever else.
You and your jealous paid cronies Andrew Do-Do and Nick Lecong would desperately like to end Assemblyman Tran's power and influence in Central Orange County because he is an icon and an esteblished figure. But how do you undo his 20 years of activism and hard work in the area? People out there don't buy your BS and disengenuous conduct. You don't get ahead by stepping on people.
Your self-importance behavior, but more like a delusion, reminds me of an old story that a frog thinks that it is as big as a bull. So, in order to become as big as a bull, the frog kept drinking water until its stomach bursts wide open and it died. Moral of the story: Don't think of yourself as somebody when you are not.
Anon,
The number of posts on this blog only shows that it is entertaining to beat up on your gal Janet Nguyen. That's about it.
Question:
If Adam is hooked up with Janet, and he is also busy giving Jack Anderson bad advice; does that mean we can expect Janet to endorse Jack for Sheriff?
Little Frog...should change the name to big fog (which would reflect this individuals state of mind). Of course this race is about Van's influence in Little Saigon. This is a classic academic study relating to the shelf life of influence of a politician. Nobody can or should criticize the accomplishments of Van or fail to recognize and respect his accent to power. However clearly given the hightened and public competitive element of this race to think the race is not an imperical measurement of power is simply rediculous.
The only way this race does not measure the current state of Van's power is if he were now to publicly state "I do not want anything to do with this race". And if he did make that statement it would demonstrate weakness.
He has been called out; hislevel of influence will be adjudicated based on his success and nature of his answer.
Unfortunately 20 years of past victories does give you a pass in the zaney world of politics...you are largely judged by present success or failure.
Iam not saying he has failed in this race but all indicators are pointing in that direction.
Anon.11:24, I understand where your guess work is coming from ..... but I can not agree with you at this time.
Janet has invited herself into this situation where she needs to fend off many candidates for the supervisorial seat, basically alone. Janet's liberal immaturity coupled with lack of leadership skills made her the most feeble incumbent in OC history. Nobody(conservative republicans) in her district
wants to be represented by Janet.
Look at her hopeless supporters.................... ie. Art(Independent, voting for Obama) and few lost liberal lefty Vietnames souls.
"STUDENT" you are annoying. Totally inaccurate, breast beating, arrogant and again, wrong. But since this is America you have a right to express your many syrupy opinions about Van Tran, Trung Nguyen, etc. But to say really stupid things and come up with really stupid figures about polls is really pushing the envelope.
Before the recount was even underway, Trung was touring the Board of Supervisor's Office meeting everyone, looking at what he thought would be his offices. I call that some amazing arrogance. I also think that many of the Trannie's have an amazing supply of arrogance and have no problem laying it out in front of everyong. Have a little humility. It may serve you well. But STUDENT, I think you have already dug your hole.
Anon.1:48, I think you are in the wrong classroom... were you looking for English Lit. Fiction 101 ???
Your pin left inside from the last brain surgery has obscured your vision and thought process. It appears you dislike politicians in general who holds high offices for the period of time....... which includes the most of our respected republican officials from OC.
From reading your fictional la la land story lines and looking at the MRI picture, the doctors are telling me that your brain cavity has been spilled to the far left.. .......and that special passionate left side cheek kiss from the prince Obama might make it feel BETTER!
Wow, STUDENT, that hole keeps getting deeper...
Anonymous,
It's a gross overreach with your attempt to compare Van Tran to Janet Nguyen. It's like comparing the education level of an 8th grader, a la Janet, to a post-grad -- figuratively and literally.
Don't try to size Van Tran up with your horse, who's still in training wheels. His name is not on the ballot. Janet got a lot of things to worry about and she is very vulnerable. Not sure if she can survive this election, much less trying to be Van Tran.
give up this line of thinking. Tell Janet to work hard in the community for at least another 10 years before she can earn her stripes to move up. You should know how the GOP works. Noone likes line cutters and jumpers.
Anon.3:27, I will take it as you are pretty fresh in this political arena....... and I think you might have some future if you can line up on the conservative republican lane. Having said that, go get some more training in "How to share love".
Finding a good republican leader should be your first priority.
STUDENT: Well I know I won't be coming to you, (or Dina) for "training in how to share love"...LOL
LOL! Bk Trung and Dina the mother with 3 kids out of wedlock with multiple men. Wow! what conservatives they are!!!! and Wow they waited their turn.....
Who...4:01, if you keep resorting to childish, hateful remarks against Dina, I can only blame it to your parent's up-bringing.........
The posters that continue to alledge that Van is not on the ballot and this election is not about Van and Janet are simply naive.
I think the attempt to separate Van from this election is a testament to his growing weakness. If he had the juice to win he like any other politician would want to be closely identified with the election.
Janet has called him out; if his canidate wins Janet will be severely wounded; if Janet wins the same goes for Van.
Van understands politics better than most and he recognizes his growing weakness; that's why he will try to lay low or duck this one.
Anon.5:45, Are you a old garbage recycler? When I read all these postings I can conclude :
1) Janet is in big trouble due to the vote of "no confidence" from the republican community.
2) Janet blindly believes she is running against Assemblyman Tran and other elected high ranking republican officials. If we didn't have Dina and Trung in the ring I would have pulled the paper my self as well.......
3) Janet's Dems leaning mentality had negative impact on her disoriented, timid and angry staffers.... read the comments.
Finally Janet can continue to become self-destuctive or as some one said earlier...step down peacefully and support the popular, winning candidate, Dina.
Anon,
You can smoke all the weed you like and believe that this is a race between Assemblyman Van Tran and your girl, who IS already severely wounded. It's stupid and arrogant of you, or that you actually are Janet Nguyen, the author-blogger of these false analogies, to try to do pop/amateur analysis on Tran.
Assemblyman Tran is above this fray. Sit in your own chair and stop blathering about Janet being this or that.
Van's the Man! Oh, you can see the envy and frustration of Janet Nguyen and her hired help. Sad, sad, sad!
Anon.6:54, you are right! I did hear one disappointed republican said that his dog named "peach" could probably beat Janet in this election.
Anon 4:01PM
Don't make up the story. It shows how hateful Janet and her supporters are. The best they can do is to spread lies, lies and lies.
I have no horse in this race but Van's candidate lost the last race. And his boy Schroeder has spent a lot of time trying to destroy Janet.
Two 'trannies' now are running against Janet, so how can you say
Van is above the fray? Hogwash.
I also didn't know Van sits on a hill looking down on the mere mortals below. Put down the kool aid. He wanted to be the sole gatekeeper to the VN vote, however, we see that is not really true. Janet's rise has caused team Van much consternation. Oh well, like I said, I don't have a horse in the race, however it is fun to watch the drama, not from a hill, but from the sidelines.
Isn't Van Tran pimping McCain too? It will be very funny when Obama takes out McCain and his pack of lobbyist advisers. Poor Tran won't know what to do...maybe he can be a pen pal for Schroeder's other golden boy, Carona, who by then will be rotting in jail.
Janet's rise, like a dough girl? She's rising to what?
There are 10 Vietnamese-American elected in the OC, including the dough girl. But nobody wants to play with her. Not much consternation for anyone. Janet is a pariah and a political leper. Everyone stays away from her.
Arturo,
Obama your your Mama who's Osama.
Arturo the Loser. That's why he loves Janet Nguyen.
Arturo de Pieda, I have been waiting for you... did you bring in more garbage tonight? or just the pictures of Obama?
Arturo only brings in trash, smelly trash too. He carries the can for Janet.
Arturo said he is a independent..... he can love both Obama and Janet with passion.
Let me understand...
Van Tran's reep's are going after a sitting reep Supervisor in a presidential election year that has Democrats energized to capture the White House?
A resonable person would expect a lot of new moderate voters and dems to come out in June and November. How is Van Tran's actions helping reep's in state and national elections?
At best, this would seem to be a down year for reeep's, can someone tell me how beating up a sitting reep supervisor will help the party?
Is Van Tran putting his ambition before the good of the party? If not, why is this battle being fought? If Janet jumped the line, so be it, she won! Wouldn't good reep's want to hold a seat before seeking their revenge? Guess this battle raises so many more questions than it answers...
Anonymous,
Let's be real here. Your Janet got lots and lots of problems. She created most of them for herself. Don't hide behind the Reep crap and blame it on Van Tran and his team. Bear in mind that they were all at one time supporters and helpers of Janet, until she stabbed each and everyone of them.
There's no mystery here for lots of people. Janet is a bad Republican who stabbed her friends and associates and now they want to return the favor, with interest. It's pretty straight forward. She is reaping what she has beeng sowing. Nothing more, nothing less.
Had she played nice and use the knife less on her friends would she be in this sad predicament? She is pathetic.
When Janet hired a liberal dream team lawyers to reverse the official will of the voters.... against a fellow republican, she has traded the moral value for the pure greed and selfishness.
Janet is clearly well known for her self serving mentality where she would use any gadgets to satisfy her stubborn hidden ambition. Many believe Janet has been grown too fast without proper basic guidance and moral care by the family membes or by the political advisors....... therefor, she is only equipped for the primary suvival skills necessary to feed her own ego.
When her true character is discovered........ this is where normal republicans would be highly disappointed/shocked and severe the relationships with Janet quickly....... as many have done in the past.
Unless you have the "monetary contribution" capacity
or share the her left leaning-liberlism, you are not part of her republican(?) friends.
We, as a conservative republicans should never be played by the dripping tears and sad fictional stories produced by emotionally unbalanced, young woman named Janet. Never again.....
Long knife, rusty blade,
Give me a break! We all know the truth. Janet left the Trannies because they are CORRUPT. Tran tried to force her to spend thousands with his crooked friends to print mailers she did not need. That is how Tran works.
Janet will survive. In fact, Trannie Madison Nguyen may be recalled in the next few months. While Janet is going to easily win reelection against "BK" Trung and rookie Dina.
Tran and his Trannies are hurting their party because they don't care about anyone but themselves. But their ship is sinking.
Art, Janet, you will one day have to answer for your actions, (not the mudthrowing mentioned here, but for your treatment of so many) weather it is in front of the electorate or St. Paul, we all (including myself) must ultimately pay for our sins. Please work for the good of your community rather than this political bull.
I respect those who do not need politics for happiness, I am afraid that some need the constant thirst for power or acclaim more than they need fulfilling relationships and the respect of those who have sacrificed so much before them.
Arturo de Piedra, por que tienes la cabeza dura? De donde es tu mama?
Dear Obama and Janet lover Arturo, You can day dream all day long or spend all night attempting to create/spread a la la land fictional lies soaked with hatred against our good republicans......all from your mcro-size negative IQ brain capacity........ is truly a waste of your misearable life as a latino/male Obama dancer.
The Tran supporters posting on this issue are in total "la-La land" if they don't believe that this election is the show-down at the OC coral in terms of Central OC Politics. The Van supporters want everyone to believe that somehow Van doesn't have a vested interest in this race.....well nobody with even a milligram of political sense would believe that.
If Van is unable to use his influence to raise a considerable amount of money for his canidate/s he will be percieved as weak. That's the way it is in politics. If he is unable to at least raise substantial money and unable to get somebody elected against his enemy Janet he will become irrelevent...once again that is politics !!!!
So Van posters quit trying to change the basic rules of politics...simply accept the fact if you are unable to raise the money or elect canidates you become a nobody very fast. Unfortunate but true.
Anon.1:55, As a republican, we all have vested interest in removing left leaning, under- achieving Janet from OC Board.
One blogger estimated Janet is short of minimum of $1.85 million greens to overcome the current disadvantage against our popular, republican suppoting candidate, Dina.....and that is for only this Primary!
You don't need any BIG name to go against Janet in this election....... see why Hillary is suffering today......she made too many enemies from her own party!
Anon 21:55PM,
Read the previous posts again since you seem to be uncommonly dense from the neck up concerning Janet Nguyen's numerous vulnerabilities.
Don't make any hasty assumptions since the close of filing hasn't even finished yet. The money reports are already a month old. The campaign will be long enough and enough money will be raised for the Trannies to bury Janet in the ground.
Van Tran does have an interst in the race, but it is not HIS race, obviously. But it does n't matter. His allies can take care of Janet, who's just another 8th grader in the school of politics.
Arturo your Obama,
Real persuasive, but stupid as ususal with your illogic that Janet Nguyen left her Trannie status because Van Tran "forced" (was a long knife, sharp blade involved?) her to spend money on uneeded ads all the way back in 2004. Funny -- it's only been four year since and you're the one giving Janet Nguyen this excuse. Very compelling!?
Perhaps you can make a better case for your idol, Obama your Mama.
A blogger on this post tried real hard to "pump" Janet up and falsely portrayed that her little race for Supe survival as a contest with the Tran machine for Central Orange County.
Funny how this blogger blows hot air over the ethernet.
Janet got no operation, little elected support other than those who wanted to save their own political skin in the next election, and no will or generosity to help anyone but herself. Janet's track record has been that she only cares for herself, not building the Party, registering new Reps, nor nurturing a bench team for the furute.
Janet is not someone people look up to. Actually, a lot of folks in her own community are looking down on her. She's not that educated, come from a troubled family (talk to her old neighbors), can't speak proper Vietnamese, and disrespectful to the elders.
In short, the Trannies don't have to worry about Janet because she doesn't own a tailor shop (no operational organization on the ground) and no coat tail.
She'll be lucky to make it to the November run-off.
I think Janet should first get married and settle down to build a wonderful family fist.
When you don't have a good family for support and love ................political arena can become a very lonely place.
For Janet; until you are married, people think you are a only little 8th grader.
Wow-where is this imaginary poll? To run a poll, it costs money, right? If money was spent on a poll, whose campaign paid for it? Not Van or any of his cronies. So I guess the money spent was not correctly reported according to our OC campaign financing reports. What newspaper is going to go after this story?
The chidish 8th grader friends are acting up again.
The imaginary poll you are talking about is aleady situated deep inside of the republican voters and .... shouting ........."please replace shameful Janet!!!!" plus, send Aturo de Piedra aka Obama voter to the South, back home!!!
LOL! Janet not married your so lame... Your thinking of your girl Dina and you have them mixed up...
CRA Republican,
If you are representative of CRA and CA GOP leadership, it is no wonder that your party is bankrupt and losing voters on a daily basis.
Supervisor Nguyen IS married, you moron.
Is it possible to have a comment thread about Janet/Van/Trung et al WITHOUT it degenerating into name-calling?
Fair warning. I'm going to go through this thread and pull out the weeds. Then everyone needs to make their points within the bounds of the comment section rules.
Jubal, this may sound drastic, but maybe you should impose a moratorium on anything to do with Janet N. It seems impossible not to bring out all the semi-literate crackpots and knife-sharpeners. As a long-time blog reader I can tell you that I now almost always ignore any posting that has to do with her. Oh the tedium!
At first I found that the contorted verbiage and garbled grammar added a certain amusing charm to the venom of the comments. Now it's just boring - and sad, really, to see presumed adults behaving so badly under the cover of anonymity.
Arturo de Piedra, are you kidding? I have never seen Janet with her husband(?)..... can you give us his name??. As I have stated again, she needs to settle down first before seeking public office.
CRA Republican:
I have warned you in the past. No mas. Spouses are out of bounds. You're off to the Village of the Banned.
I am not bored I think all the postings provide good insight to the mind set of the Viet Community. The Tranies loyalty is admirable but ignores the reality of politics and Janet's folks appear ready to fight a machine that was once very powerful.
The political landscape of our nation is rapidly changing and it appears similar changes are occuring in the Viet community. I think ultimately the proof is in the pudding and it seems likely that the once powerful "Tran Machine" will be severely damaged by the First District election.
What may end up to be boring is the contest itself if Van is unable to raise enough money and field a competitive canidate.
Anon.8:11, are you blind or deaf?..... maybe both! Your political landscape changes will occur only from your front yard because you won't be able to pay for your water bills (you should replace it with "permanent plasic grass" right now).... once your boss is tossed out from her moldy seat this primary by .....none other than winning, popular republican candidate Dina.
Don't worry about your secrete admirer Van, He has been doing fine for last 20 years without your help and I am sure he will do just fine with/without your blessings for next 20 years.
Food for thought, who knows if Dina might hire back all of Janet's staffers when she wins this supe. election.
I think Dina might have to work little harder (if doesn't get 50 plus 1 in this primary) in november general election.
Dina is not working hard because running was not her idea. She is just doing what Tran told her to do. Same with Trung. They can deny this all they want, but take a look at their campaign finance reports for their past races. All of their money has come from the same sources that give money to Tran.
This race is just going to make the Trannies look like a mess, which is fine with me.
Art,
You really don't know what you are talking about. Don't make hasty statements and conclusions because you sound really dumb at the end when things are contrary to your statements (eg. McCain's victories). You seem to be unable to give yourself a check of restraint. You make false assummptions and irresponsible allegations.
Readers on this blog have no respect for you because you attack otthers wildly and defend Janet Nguyen blindly, despite her numerous failings. You lose all shreds of credibility when you can't see straight.
Art,
You can say the same to Hillary Clinton and Rudy Giuliani. Money is not everything.
Anon @8:11AM,
Don't worry about the Tran Machine and its reach and abilities. Worry about your own Boss, Janet Nguyen, and the real danger of going into political extinction this year. That's what you oughtta be worried about. Given the crowded field, I would.
When is the deadline to file in this Supervisor race? How many candidates already announced to run?
No respect for Art, I agree. Arturo de Piedra sound half smart on other subjects. However, with Janet, he is plain "CRAZY"..... It could have been Janet's liberal, left arm, moldy scent that Arturo is attracted to. He needs a large cup of cold milk.
OK, Student -- you know the rules, but aren't obeying them. Off to the Village of the Banned with you.
Jubal,
Why didn't you delete two blogs at Feb. 22, 4:11PM and Feb. 23 4:01PM? They are outrageous lies.
Trung might have to file for bankcruptcy soon. I think he take out a loan from his house. With this current housing crisis, Trung will not be able to sell his house because his house is worth less than what he owe the bank. This would be his second bankruptcy.
Could someone tell me why Trung does not claim or say he's an attorney when he campaign with the non-viet community. He's always called him self or instroduce himself as an attorney within the Vienamese community.
Anh Ba,
I am told that the Vietnamese people are very respectful of titles, and that being a lawyer is a big deal to them. However, if Trung tried to advertise himself as a lawyer to the rest of us he would be laughed at, as he does not in fact practice law. The guy is an engineer. And a broke one at that.
Anh Ba,
Let Chi Hai, your big sister, educate you about titles and honorifics in the Vietnamese culture. Obviously, you're not too educated in the area.
The term "Luat Su", or attorney at law, is a title, and an honorific, that one earns and one will keep for life. Just like a rank in the military or a government title, like Mr. Secretary or Governor. Bill Clinton is still addressed as "Mr. President" or "President Bill Clinton" as a matter of courtesy and tradition. The same concept also applies here.
So, even if a lawyer retires or does not currently practices law, he or she could still be addressed as "Luat Su", or Attorney at Law. The term in Vietnamese literally means "Master of the Law", as translated in to English.
Trung Nguyen does not have to practice law to be appropriately addressed as a lawyer, when in fact, he is a member of the California Bar in good standing. But more importantly, it is an honorific for which others will appropriately address him as such, especially in public. It is very normal and everyone in the Vietnamese community understands this.
I hope this little lesson on courtesy and etiquette is useful to you and Janet Nguyen, whose understanding of her own culture and heritage is severely lacking.
Only you Art would make fun of someone's misfortune. Put yourself in his shoes....he was fighing for what HE believed in, and risked HIS own money in doing so. Just because you disagree with his cause, as you supported the "other" candidate, does not make his less important. You should be careful, I believe that in by judging others, you end up in those shoes.
Anh Ba shouldn't be so nasty like Art Pedroza, who has no credibility because he came off as a wild, mean, and dim-witted person. Nobody takes this guy seriously.
Anh Ba shouldn't go into the gutter about people's personal life or he's gonna have to take a shower with extra soap to wash off the stink. Anh Ba the Nasty!
art
all i know is Janet has no choice but to be in the ring. With all the contenders forget about winning, she would be lucky to get out alive. You better start preparing your resume to send to the Van's allies.
Amazingly enough, all you Van Tran supporters are finally admitting that he has a "machine" working here. This is something he tried to deny in an article he wrote in a local paper last year. But apparently enough light has now been shed on this situation to bring it out into the sunlight.
Anonymous 3:18AM
It could be said the same about Janet's machine. She always claimed in the Vietnamese community that she is a lone and desperate women whom Trannies found ways to attack. It shows her and her supporters disingenous to Viet voters.
Meanwhile, to the non-Vietnamese voters, her propaganda has been publicizing how much she received from outside donors.
It is a double talk and people will find it.
Probolsky and his "research" team is a scam, aimed to raise money for his own supposed good taste and living. He has agenda and wants to meet them through crap that he publishes. He's eating from someone's pot, and so cant speak the truth as long as his fat behind is getting fed.
who ever said that the recent polls show Dina was favored over Janet in the vietnamese community, they are so dillusional.
dina is not only dumb, she's shady in every aspect, she's not respected by the majority of the business community, she's home wrecker(didn't she broke up Roxanne & andy so he could help her with fundraising, without his contacts where would she be, most of the money came from his contact in westminster), the community sees her as a power hungry, conceited, inexperience whose has no moral standards. the trannies need a reality check