241 Tollroad Opponents Hire Some Firepower
Posted by: Jubal | 09/18/2007 2:33 PM
Opponents of completing the Foothill-South toll road have hired some high-powered political talent to assist their campaign to "save" Trestles, the habitat of the steelhead trout somebody thinks they saw once upon a time, the Arroyo Toad and anything else that might come in handy in stopping the 241.
Matt Klink of Cerrell Associates of Los Angeles and Joe Rodota of Forward Observer of Sacramento have been brought on board by...I don't know yet. I have calls in to both Klink and Rodota.
Obviously, 241 completion proponents like myself aren't excited at this news, since Klink and Rodota are pros who are good at what they do. However, they're also out-of-county firms up against a local project that is supported by most area residents. Which is probably what those who have hired Klink and Rodota are trying to change by hiring them.
Stay tuned...
UPDATE (8:35 p.m.): I spoke with Matt Klink late this afternoon. He said Cerrell Associates was hired by the California State Parks Association this July as their public affairs consultant (Cerrell is a full-service public/political affairs firm) to assist them in their various areas of interest. Since the CSPA is vehemently opposed ot completing the 241, that will be an area in which Cerrell Associates will assist them, but Klink said they were not hired specifically and solely for that task.
I haven't heard back from Joe Rodota, so I don't know exactly what their role it.
MOST RESIDENTS?
One could be tempted to call you a smarmy little liar, Jubal. Strongly tempted.
Show me where you can justify/prove the statement that the 241 expansion is, "a local project that is supported by most area residents"
MOST AREA RESIDENTS. That's over 50%. Last time I was in San Clemente for a hearing, the VAST majority of people in the room were there to OPPOSE the road.
And if you refuse to acknowledge your lie, you have to admit that it conveniently BENDs the truth to make your side look prettier.
Don't worry about a long-winded, "well-thought-out" response, I'm too busy to read it.
Dear Alexi Z-Whackywhatever,
I know you are 100% correct about almost any hearing on this subject being filled with anti-241ers. Unfortunately you fail to realize or acknowlegde that is a piss poor sample of public opinion. This is basic, basic public affairs. Do your homework and call Lisa Telles at TCA tomorrow about poll results on public approvals for the 241 in South County and/or San Clemente. I assure you Jubal is correct. I also assure you Jubal is not little and not a liar. He is a smarmy turthslayer at worst!
Alex -- I'll make it short and sweet - just because you can pack a room by bringing in your friends and relatives doesn't mean they are local residents. Every poll and every election shows clearly that the majority of people in san clemente want the road.
Alex:
I believe Meg and the anon commenter answered you ably, so I'll be pithy so as not to tax your open lefty mind.
Your response reminds me of the late NYT film critic Pauline Kael's comment how she surprised by Nixon's landslide 1972 re-election because no one she knew voted for him.
Of course, we know that any poll is 100 percent trustworthy and accurate, especially when paid for by the firm seeking the positive results.
Remember the airport-voting debacles, folks?
We don't even need to go that far astray. Remember the polls and predictions about how popular the 73 would be? Is it still losing money?
Let's put the 241 to the ultimate poll: A public vote. Does anyone doubt that it loses?
Let's put the 241 to the ultimate poll: A public vote. Does anyone doubt that it loses?
I do. It would win hands down.
And a poll is a vastly more accurate measure of public opinion of than which side is better at packing people into a public hearing. The environmental/no growth crowd excels at turning out their usual suspects.