The Fundamental Transformation of America...

By Matt Bruce | 11/19/09 | 06:32 PM EDT | 33 Comments

The Fundamental Transformation of America...

Editorial!

When Obama wrote a book and said he was mentored as a youth by Frank, (Frank Marshall Davis) an avowed Communist. People said it didn't matter...

When it was discovered that his grandparents, were strong socialists, sent Obama's mother to a socialist school, introduced Frank Marshall Davis to young Obama, People said it didn't matter...

When people found out that he was enrolled as a Muslim child in school and his father and step father were both Muslims, People said it didn't matter...

When he wrote in another book he authored “I will stand with them (Muslims) should the political winds shift in an ugly direction". People said it didn't matter...

When he admittedly, in his book, said he chose Marxist friends and professors in college, People said it didn't matter...

When he traveled to Pakistan, after college on an unknown national passport, People said it didn't matter...

When he sought the endorsement of the Marxist party in 1996 as he ran for the Illinois Senate, People said it doesn't matter...

When he sat in a Chicago Church for twenty years and listened to a preacher spew hatred for America and preach black liberation theology, People said it didn't matter...

When an independent Washington organization, that tracks senate voting records, gave him the distinctive title as the "most liberal senator", People said it didn't matter...

When the Palestinians in Gaza, set up a fund raising telethon to raise money for his election campaign, People said it didn't matter...

When his voting record supported gun control, People said it didn't matter...

When he refused to disclose who donated money to his election campaign, as other candidates had done, People said it didn't matter...

When he received endorsements from people like Louis Farrakhan and Mummar Kaddafi and Hugo Chavez, People said it didn't matter...

When it was pointed out that he was a total, newcomer and had absolutely no experience at anything except community organizing, People said it didn't matter...

When he chose friends and acquaintances such as Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn who were revolutionary radicals, People said it didn't matter...

When his voting record in the Illinois senate and in the U.S. Senate came into question, People said it didn't matter...

When he refused to wear a flag, lapel pin and did so only after a public outcry, People said it didn't matter...

When people started treating him as a Messiah and children in schools were taught to sing his praises, People said it didn't matter...

When he stood with his hands over his groin area for the playing of the National Anthem and Pledge of Allegiance, People said it didn't matter...

When he surrounded himself in the White house with advisors who were pro gun control, pro abortion, pro homosexual marriage, anti-capitalism, anti-free markets, pro government control over everything and wanting to curtail freedom of speech to silence the opposition, People said it didn't matter...

When he aired his views on abortion, homosexuality and a host of other issues, People said it didn't matter...

When he said he favors sex education in Kindergarten, including homosexual indoctrination, People said it didn't matter...

When his background was either scrubbed or hidden and nothing could be found about him, People said it didn't matter...

When his first act as President, literally within 5 minutes of taking office, he signed executive order #13489 that sealed his own records, People said it didn’t matter...

When the place of his birth was called into question, and he refused to produce a birth certificate, and continues to spend millions in court to keep the material sealed, People said it didn't matter...

When he had an association in Chicago with Tony Rezco, a man of questionable character, who is now in prison and had helped Obama to a sweet deal on the purchase of his home, People said it didn't matter...

When it became known that George Soros, a multi-billionaire Marxist, spent a ton of money to get him elected, People said it didn't matter...

When he started appointing czars that were radicals, revolutionaries, and even avowed Marxist/Communist, People said it didn't matter...

When he stood before the nation and told us that his intentions were to "fundamentally transform this nation" into something else, People said it didn't matter...

When it became known that he had trained ACORN workers in Chicago and served as an attorney for ACORN, People said it didn't matter...

When he appointed a cabinet members and several advisors who were tax cheats and socialist, People said it didn't matter...

When he appointed a science czar, John Holdren, who believes in forced abortions, mass sterilizations and seizing babies from teen mothers, People said it didn't matter...

When he appointed Cass Sunstein as regulatory czar and he believes in "Explicit Consent", harvesting human organs without family consent, and to allow animals to be represented in court, while banning all hunting, People said it didn't matter...

When he appointed Kevin Jennings, an overt homosexual, and organizer of a group called gay, lesbian, straight, education network, as safe school czar and it became known that he had a history of bad advice to teenagers, People said it didn't matter...

When he appointed Mark Lloyd as diversity czar and he believed in curtailing free speech, taking from one and giving to another to spread the wealth and admires Hugo Chavez, People said it didn't matter...

When Valerie Jarrett was selected as Obama's senior White House advisor and she is an avowed Socialist, People said it didn't matter...

When Anita Dunn, White House Communications director said Mao Tse Tung was her favorite philosopher and the person she turned to most for inspiration, People said it didn't matter...

When he appointed Carol Browner as global warming czar, and she is a well known socialist working on Cap and trade as the nation’s largest tax hike in history, People said it doesn't matter...

When he appointed Van Jones, an ex-con and avowed Communist as green energy czar, who since had to resign when this was made known, People said it didn't matter...

When Tom Daschle, Obama's pick for health and human services secretary could not be confirmed, because he was a tax cheat, People said it didn't matter...

When as president of the United States, he bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia, People said it didn't matter...

When he traveled around the world criticizing America and never once talking of her greatness, People said it didn't matter...

When his actions concerning the middle-east seemed to support the Palestinians over Israel, our long time friend, People said it doesn't matter...

When he took American tax dollars to resettle thousands of Palestinians from Gaza to the United States , People said it doesn't matter...

When he upset our European allies by removing plans for a missile defense system against the Russians, People said it doesn't matter...

When he played politics in Afghanistan by not sending troops the Field Commanders said we had to have to win, People said it didn't matter...

When he started spending us into a debt that was so big we could not pay it off, People said it didn't matter...

When he took a huge spending bill under the guise of stimulus and used it to pay off organizations, unions and individuals that got him elected, People said it didn't matter...

When he forced the takeover of insurance companies, car companies, banks, etc, People said it didn't matter...

When he took away student loans from the banks and put it through the government, People said it didn't matter...

When he designed plans to take over the health care system and put it under government control, People said it didn't matter...

When he set into motion a plan to take over the control of all energy resources in the United States through Cap and Trade, People said it didn't matter...

When he announced he was returning the masterminds of 9-11 to New York City to stand trial as ordinary criminals -- not war criminals -- and thus allow them the benefits from our system of jurisprudence, The mainstream media loved it and the people said it didn't matter...(Oh really? Go ask an FDNY FF, NYPD Cop, NY EMS, NY Port Authority Cop or Transit Worker, or a 9/11 Families member who was at the World Trade Center 9/11/2001 and see if it matters...)

When he finally completed his transformation of America into a Socialist State, people finally woke up, but it was too late...

Any one of these things, in and of themselves does not really matter. But when you add them up one by one you get a phenomenal score that points to the fact that our Obama is determined to make America over into a Marxist/Socialist society. All of the items in the preceding paragraphs have been put into place. All can be documented very easily. Before you disavow this, do an internet search. The last paragraph alone is not yet cast in stone. You and I will write that paragraph. Will it read as above or will it be a more happy ending for most of America ? Personally, I like happy endings...

If you are an Obama Supporter, please recognize that you have elected a president who is a 'socialist'. There is simply no debate about these facts. But you need to seek the truth; you will be richer for it. Don't just belittle the opposition. Search for the truth. I did. Democrats, Republicans, Independents, Constitutionalist, Libertarians and what have you, we all need to pull together. We all must pull together or watch the demise of a society that we all love and cherish. If you are a religious person, pray for our nation...

Never before in the history of America have we been confronted with problems so huge that the very existence of our country is in jeopardy. Don't rely on most television news and what you read in the newspapers for the truth. Search the internet. Yes, there is a lot of bad information, lies and distortions there as well, but you are smart enough to spot the fallacies. Newspapers are a dying breed. They are currently seeking a bailout from the government. Do you really think they are about to print the truth? Obama praises all the television news networks except Fox who he is currently waging an open war against. There must be a reason. He does not call them down on any specifics, and he has failed to refute any facts presented – because it is all true. If they lie, he should call them out on it but he doesn't. Please, find the truth, it will set you free...

Our biggest enemy is not China, Russia or Iran; no, our biggest enemy is the current contingent of politicians in Washington DC led by the Progressive Left Liberals who support the previously mentioned things...

Wake Up America! There's still time in 2010 to take back America and send a message LOUD and CLEAR to those who think 'it doesn't matter'...

I happen to think 'it does matter'...

God Bless America!

Matt Bruce
An American Independent Conservative Who Thinks 'It Matters'...

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The Fundamental Transformation of America...

This right-wing tea bagging, town halling birther is right up there with David Duke, Eric Rudolph, Timothy McVeigh, Ruch Limbaugh and the other Guns for God idiots.

Submitted by Richard Baker on Fri, 11/27/09 - 09:37 PM » | Print
 
 
Baker

What's wrong, Baker? Truth hurts...oh, how it hurts.

Submitted by Tom Cooper on Tue, 12/01/09 - 11:52 AM » | Print
 
 
Richard Baker - WAKE UP!

So let me get this right...a "town haller", i.e. one who attends their Representative's Town Hall meeting to express their views, and let THEIR Representative know how they feel they are being represented, or in many instances, NOT being represented...we're the PROBLEM here, right? What a Jamoke!

Submitted by Sofa King Cool on Tue, 12/01/09 - 12:51 PM » | Print
 
 
RE: The Fundamental Transformation of America...

If Baker feels that he is correct, I dare that he and/or any of his marxist buddies prove any of this article wrong with intelligent debate. When people are caught in lies, they often will resort to name calling and slander. This is the first thing that Baker did. I doubt he has the ability to carry on a conversation about any of these topics without threatening someone with violence or spitting all over their face while he spews his venom.

Submitted by UpForTheTruth on Tue, 12/01/09 - 04:10 PM » | Print
 
 
Oh here they come...

Slithering out of the woodwork, like snakes to hiss at the truth exposing their messiah...you libs are sooooo predictable! lol Matt...You did an awesome job recapping the Obama Travesty...Thank you THANK YOU THANK YOU! I actually got this in my email, and posted it online at Gather...then a friend of mine (Lee Y.) found your page here...if you are the original author, you deserve a standing ovation! Bravo!

Submitted by Anonymous on Fri, 12/04/09 - 08:42 PM » | Print
 
 
Chuckle at Baker

Yup, I never cease to be amused at the name calling but the inability to scroll up and dispute or refute what was said. An example of a serious lack of intelligence and the inability to make a credible argument. Kennethschu@hotmail.com

Submitted by Kenneth Schustereit on Wed, 12/23/09 - 08:21 PM » | Print
 
 
What if...

What if this list is only 95% accurate? 90%? 70%? HALF RIGHT? 30%? Just how much Marxism/Communism are you willing to accept?

Submitted by Russell T on Sun, 11/29/09 - 06:04 PM » | Print
 
 
The "Richard Bakers" of the country are the problem.

It is clear that the preponderance of evidence means nothing to you. Did you read the commentary piece or just disparage the author because he threatens the "hope", er - hype, you believe in? When he says "wake up", he is speaking directly to you! You must be a student of Saul Alinsky. Rules for Radicals rule number 13: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.

Submitted by Eyes Wide Open on Tue, 12/01/09 - 10:58 AM » | Print
 
 
This sums up exactly what

This sums up exactly what Obama is all about!! America need to wake up and VOTE these people OUT of office!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Submitted by ks on Tue, 12/01/09 - 11:00 AM » | Print
 
 
HUH???

This post from Richard Baker has to be a joke or a parody...either that, or some idiotic teenager.

Submitted by Toa on Tue, 12/01/09 - 11:52 AM » | Print
 
 
The

The left-wing earth-worshipping,baby-killing truther Richard Baker is right up there ideogically with Joe Stalin,Che Guevarra, George Souros, Al Gore and the other Useful Idiots.

Submitted by Patrick T. on Tue, 12/01/09 - 11:58 AM » | Print
 
 
Flakey Baker

The left-wing earth-worshipping,baby-killing truther Richard Baker is right up there ideogically with Joe Stalin,Che Guevarra, George Souros, Al Gore and the other Useful Idiots.

Submitted by Patrick T. on Tue, 12/01/09 - 12:00 PM » | Print
 
 
The Fundamental Transformation of America.

It's obvious that "Richard Baker" believes all persons finding fault with Obama & Co. are potential terrorists. Lest we Conservatives forget that his ilk abounds among the diminishing numbers of Obama devotees, it's positive that his kind keep us on our toes with their juvenile responses. Though many Obama voters now have "Buyers Remorse," there are also the hold-outs who cannot admit to their own poor judgement. No matter how damaging Obama's presidency is to our nation, his believers stubbornly reject any common sense and the tradition of the United States Constitution.

Submitted by Stan Lee on Tue, 12/01/09 - 12:49 PM » | Print
 
 
"All of the items in the

"All of the items in the preceding paragraphs have been put into place. All can be documented very easily. Before you disavow this, do an internet search."

You’re kidding me, right? I mean, holy fuck... I only *skimmed* this editorial, but a good amount of your more outrageous claims have been debunked as FALSE on snopes.com as well as other sites. So this “internet search” that you suggested... did you bother to do that yourself?!

"When he wrote in another book he authored 'I will stand with them (Muslims) should the political winds shift in an ugly direction'. People said it didn't matter..."
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ownwords.asp

"When he traveled to Pakistan, after college on an unknown national passport, People said it didn't matter..."
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/passport.asp

"When he received endorsements from people like Louis Farrakhan and Mummar Kaddafi and Hugo Chavez, People said it didn't matter..."
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/chavez.asp

"When he chose friends and acquaintances such as Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn who were revolutionary radicals, People said it didn't matter..."
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ayers.asp

"When he refused to wear a flag, lapel pin and did so only after a public outcry, People said it didn't matter..." "When he stood with his hands over his groin area for the playing of the National Anthem and Pledge of Allegiance, People said it didn't matter..."
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/photos/veteransday.asp http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/stance.asp

"When he took American tax dollars to resettle thousands of Palestinians from Gaza to the United States , People said it doesn't matter..."
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/palestinians.asp

I’d bet that, if pressed to do so, you couldn’t provide legit sources for even HALF of the drivel you’ve blathered on about here, despite the fact that you claim everything is well-documented and easily found with an internet search.

Oh, and these things:

"When he surrounded himself in the White house with advisors who were pro gun control, pro abortion, pro homosexual marriage, anti-capitalism, anti-free markets, pro government control over everything and wanting to curtail freedom of speech to silence the opposition, People said it didn't matter..."

"When he aired his views on abortion, homosexuality and a host of other issues, People said it didn't matter..."

"When he said he favors sex education in Kindergarten, including homosexual indoctrination, People said it didn't matter..."

Guess what?? They DON'T matter to me or most of the others who voted for him. We are pro-gun control, pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, and pro-sex education. You’re not? Oh, sorry, but guess what? You’re in the minority! That’s why you guys LOST the election! The majority of Americans think OUR way than YOUR way. Sorry!

Submitted by katy on Tue, 12/01/09 - 02:19 PM » | Print
 
 
Poor Ms. Katy

Have you ever even looked at a 3D sonogram of a baby, NOT BLOB OF TISSUE, in it's FIRST TRIMESTER?? It has a brain, hands, fingers, head, and more!! It's a baby not a piece of tissue. It has feelings too, I mean "real" nerves where they feel real pain when doctors "suck" or "vacuum" them out of their mothers. No-one has the right to take the life of another "human being". What if your mom wanted to abort you? Then you would have never had a chance to know what life is? That is not fair or right. Only God has that right and authority on life and death. And why worship the "trees" that God created. Why worship the creation and not the Creator?? Doesn't make since. Also, history has proven that kingdoms, countries, lands, etc. that "accepted" the homosexual lifestyle were all "DESTROYED". Read your history and facts and maybe you'll realize you are on the "wrong" side of this issue. A man marrying a man or women marrying a women?? What the heck?? Over 50% of Americans are now "PRO-LIFE", and you pro-choicers hate that!! Well more and more people are learning the truth about a "baby" in the womb. It's not hard to research either and see the "pics" of a baby at all it's stages in the womb. PLEASE take a moment out of day to google and see the pics, you'll be shocked. Also, ONLY 22-25% of Americans call themselves "liberals", like you. You guys are the minority, do your research. You are so wrong on your stats!! And, I believe it is 45 - 46% say they are "conservative", like me. We are the true majority. I get upset with the Republicans too for being weak on issues BUT they are the lesser of 2 evils. Alot of us just made a mistake voting for "Barak" because "all" the media, except foxnews, lies to people and totally doesn't cover "big" stories too fool the American people. Many people were fooled by him and the left-wing media but they are seeing the truth now that's why his poll #'s and the Dem's #'s are so low. Many people thought he'd bring "real" change but instead he's bringing "scary, socialistic, communistic, change", at least he's trying too. We will fight back, we are FREEDOM LOVING AMERICANS!! Before just getting all mad about the truth, do a little research and you'll see I'm right. Oh, and everyone has a right to protect themselves!! Gun control only keeps guns out of "law abiding" citizens hands, not the criminals who get them now!! duh!! Why can't you liberals see that, oh yea, because it's common sense. Barak only won by a few million. He didn't win by a landslide so again liberals are far from being the majority. Well, have a blessed day and pray for God to show you the truth and He will. FREEDOM LOVING AMERICAN!!!

Submitted by Freedom Loving American on Tue, 12/01/09 - 05:41 PM » | Print
 
 
"Freedom loving"? HA!

Sorry, don't believe in your fairy tales and your god, so nothing you try to argue using religion or an invisible man in the sky is going to influence me in the least. Until a fetus can live outside the womb, it's not a child, it's not a life. It's a part of MY body, and I can make any choice I like with it. That ain't changing anytime soon, pal. Sorry!!

If you're really "freedom loving", you'd support personal freedoms and less government intrusion... you would NOT support the government interfering in women's choices with their OWN bodies, nor with the government interfering with people's personal choices in the bedroom. Hypocrite much?

You say that "history has proven that kingdoms, countries, lands, etc. that 'accepted' the homosexual lifestyle were all 'DESTROYED'." Sorry, but that's bullshit, too. Show me some links, show me some proof. Homosexuality has existed as long as humans have been on this earth, and we're still here. Two gay people getting married has nothing to do with you. It doesn't affect you at all. Doesn't affect your kids, doesn't affect anyone. Because even if gay marriage remained illegal, gay relationships will still exist. DEAL WITH IT! Are you against divorce? Do you think it should be outlawed? If you're trying to protect the "sanctity of marriage", I hope you support the proposed amendment in California that would make divorce illegal!! Oh, and looks like support for gay marriage is moving our way, too... http://baselinescenario.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/marriage1.jpg The numbers are moving in our favor and will continue to do so. Crawl under a rock, cry and pray to god, do whatever you need to do... it's happening and you can't stop it!

Gun control only affects law-abiding citizens?? Oh, of course! Because law-abiding citizens NEVER go crazy and kill people they know! Law-abiding citizens NEVER take guns to work and shoot people! Law-abiding teens NEVER take guns to school! Innocent children NEVER accidentally kill themselves or others from playing with guns!

Please, oh please, continue to live in your tiny small-minded world of fear, hate, and ignorance. People are leaving the right-wing in droves these days, and if you guys were truly any kind of "majority", you'd have actually had the POPULAR vote in 2000 instead of a technicality and you'd have won last year. You didn't lose by only "a few million" in 2008, you guys were CRUSHED. Almost a 10,000,000 vote difference between the two candidates, and Obama had more than twice the number of electoral votes. The numbers and the support are not in your favor anymore rethuglicans! SORRY!!!

Submitted by katy on Tue, 12/01/09 - 07:56 PM » | Print
 
 
Katy, listen up

I find it interesting is the only time that you liberalswant less government intervention is when dealing with abortion and gay marriage. Other than that you want the government to regulate healthcare (providing abortions, I might add), give you programs such as cash for clunkers, and increasing taxes on EVERYONE to pay for these programs. And by the way Katy, marriage isn't a right. I had no right to get married. I was PRIVLEDGED enough to get married. Gays should not be allowed that privledge.

Submitted by James on Wed, 12/02/09 - 09:03 AM » | Print
 
 
you forgot the part about his

you forgot the part about his birth certificate: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp

Submitted by parameterbreach on Wed, 12/02/09 - 12:36 AM » | Print
 
 
Snopes

Snopes?? Ha ha ha I went to the Snopes page and must admit...it was quite the back-pedaling/ cover up type of rebuttal that always follows when a liar is caught in a lie. The President is a Commy! Maybe Snopes can also explain away his "We gotta spread the wealth around" comment too. Or explain away his taking possession of the Auto makers and Banks...and now working on the Health industry. Why don't you research Communism and the characteristics of it. If you don't see that "O" is putting those characteristics into play now....then you are blind.

Submitted by Chuck Schultz on Wed, 12/02/09 - 04:06 PM » | Print
 
 
Way to miss the point entirely, Chuck!

Chuck - love the way you totally avoided the fact that the author of this editorial used completely debunked internet myths as part of the support for his argument.

Snopes.com is an online mythbuster. They get rumors or stories emailed to them, they investigate and post the findings. It doesn't take much when quotes are attributed to someone, etc. for them to check that and post whether or not that information is legit. They do it for everyone... GWB, Sarah Palin, Obama... everyone! They are not a left or right-wing site. There's more than just politics on the page as well. But maybe it's easier for you to just totally dismiss evidence that doesn't back up your preconstructed version of "reality" that Fox News has fed to you!

My comment was meant to refute the claims of various things that Obama did/said that he NEVER ACTUALLY DID NOR SAID. Things that people like you hear from some political pundit or read as a rumor on the Internet and take as gospel without any fact-checking whatsoever. If you choose to just believe without question everything you're told by people like Matt Bruce, then hey, enjoy your warped reality. Ignorance is bliss, right? I'll be over here figuring out whether the things that people claim about Sarah Palin, Barack Obama, etc. are actually TRUE or not.

Submitted by katy on Wed, 12/02/09 - 07:25 PM » | Print
 
 
poor katy

poor katy...i do feel sorry for the mentally deranged sometimes. Everyone, Katy is a real good example of a defect in the human race! im sorry you dont believe in god, guess you wonder life in darkness. A gun is a tool, Katy! Do you know what a tool is? no, i wouldn't expect you too know your head from your ass, so let me tell you! A tool, is an object that assist us in doing jobs. A job, katy, is something you do for you community and guess what??! You make MONEY! money that was earned by doing your work! But back to the tools, so a gun is a tool. I can take a gun and put it on a table, loaded and one rd in the chamber. Now, that gun will sit there, it wont get up and move, it wont discharge, it wont unload itself, it just is there! Now, It took a person to load that gun, right? Focus katy, i see you rolling your eyes..focus now. Alright, so we agree that someone had to load that gun, so in order for that gun to shoot, something with a brain, 99.99% of the time its a person, has to physically squeeze the trigger to make it fire. we agree?? Ok, Now answer this, who killed the person? The tool or the person? Exactly, the person did. so guns are no the problem, its idiots that are the problems, lack of parenting,(Obviously in you case too). I can kill a person with a rock..OH OH, Now we have to have rock control. I can kill someone with my hands, should we have hand control? Now, it states in the bible, that 'he who commits abortion will hear the screams of little ones in the eternal fire' so have fun with that Katy! God made Adam and Eve, Katy, Not Adam and Steve. Let me ask you what is the most precious gift a married couple is given when in love? A baby! Now please tell me how a gay couple has a baby? girls can get inseminated, but that sperm came from a guy, where is this guy during this pregnancy and birth, where is he during childhood on up to teenager?? where katy, where is the little boys father at? the one who is suppose to teach him about being a man, how to play football, catch fish off the river bank, hunt? Now you talk of peoples choices so much, that they have a choice to be gay or femmy. But, Katy, This little boy is being denied the option to see the heterosexual side. Now you are going against your ways. That is why gay marriage is not and should never be aloud. So, Katy, maybe you need to sit down, pull out a bible and read. Once you have finished, go study your history and sit on a park bench and watch families, husband, wife and kids playing in the park, laughing, giggling and loving every min. It is not right to deny a child of his father and mother. So, maybe instead of getting but hurt over all these facts about your president being a socialist, maybe you need to become mentally stable first.

Submitted by Iraqi Veteran on Wed, 12/02/09 - 12:21 AM » | Print
 
 
Last year 35 out of 41 police

Last year 35 out of 41 police officers were killed with firearms. Nil with rocks. 35 to nil. Idiots with guns kill people. Take away the guns and 35 police officers would have come home to their fsmilies in 2008.

Submitted by Darren on Wed, 12/02/09 - 06:29 AM » | Print
 
 
Reality, meet Iraqi Veteran... obviously you two have never met

"A tool, is an object that assist us in doing jobs."

What's the "job" that you're performing with a gun? Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the primary objective of a gun to shoot and/or kill something or someone? Other than paintball guns or flare guns, do they make guns that have a purpose other than critically injuring or killing something/someone? I didn't think they did. Rocks weren't designed, manufactured and sold to injure/kill other people. So you can use a rock to kill someone, sure, but that wasn't the root intent of that rock existing in the first place, was it? I am not for *banning* guns, but I am for extremely strict gun control. Because as you so astutely pointed out, "idiots" are the ones responsible for gun deaths. If that's the case, then it should be incredibly difficult for an "idiot" to get access to a gun, own more than one gun, etc.

"Now, it states in the bible, that 'he who commits abortion will hear the screams of little ones in the eternal fire' so have fun with that Katy!"

I see your reading comprehension skills aren't quite up to par. I already told you that I don't believe in god, nor do I subscribe to any of the little fairy tales in the fiction best-seller that you so desperately cling to in an effort to explain/justify your bigotry. To put it simply: I don't give a shit what the bible says. And unless you live every "rule" of the bible to the letter, you don't care either. Newsflash, there's no such place as hell, nor heaven, there is no eternal damnation. So thanks for the concern, but I sleep at night just fine with the choices I make and the beliefs I have (and don't have). You don't have to worry about me or where I'll "end up". Here's a clue... it's the same place as you - nowhere!

"God made Adam and Eve, Katy, Not Adam and Steve."

See above. There is no "god". This argument doesn't wash.

"Let me ask you what is the most precious gift a married couple is given when in love? A baby!"

Ahh, I see... so if a couple cannot conceive children, then they cannot truly be married, because they aren't procreating. Same for a couple who just chooses to not have kids. They cannot call their relationship a "marriage", or do they not have that option since they're not seeking out that "most precious gift"? They're just sinners who like to screw for pleasure! Looks like they're going to hell with me!

"Now please tell me how a gay couple has a baby? girls can get inseminated, but that sperm came from a guy, where is this guy during this pregnancy and birth, where is he during childhood on up to teenager??"

How does an unmarried woman in her late 30s have a baby? How does a couple who cannot have children have a baby? They get artificially inseminated. It happens all the time. Guess what else? Women and men raise kids on their own ALL THE TIME. And the kids turn out fine, believe it or not (I know already that you cannot and will not believe that's a possibility)! My neighbor and his same-sex partner have a son together through a donor female. Guess what?? The biological mother, while having no legal guardianship over the child at all, is STILL in the kid's life! He's a teen now, he knows how to fish and play football, and he's STRAIGHT! I know, I know, it's a total shocker!!

Let me ask you something... if a woman is pregnant and her husband is at war and is killed, should the child be taken away from the mother after birth? I mean, there's no longer a FATHER around to take care of the kid or teach the kid any of those ever-important things like football or hunting. You said it yourself that "It is not right to deny a child of his father and mother." Isn't it cruel to make the child grow up in a home with no father, just a mother to raise him/her? That seems SO unfair, doesn't it? I think we need to:

1. Removed kids from divorced couples/broken homes or widows/widowers.
2. Make abortion mandatory for unwed mothers.
3. Ban divorce.

It's really the only safe way to ensure that kids grow up with a mother AND a father present to raise them properly. I can tell by your previous posts and viewpoints that you'll no doubt agree.

"Once you have finished, go study your history and sit on a park bench and watch families, husband, wife and kids playing in the park, laughing, giggling and loving every min. It is not right to deny a child of his father and mother. So, maybe instead of getting but hurt over all these facts about your president being a socialist, maybe you need to become mentally stable first."

First thing's first... how and why did Socialism get thrown into the mix? And secondly, he's YOUR President, too. :)

Anyway, believe it or not, on my lunch break today, I *was* in a park. I saw lots of families: men and women together, women and women together, men and men together, a woman and her baby walking together (no man in sight!!), etc. The American family is not simply a man, woman and kids anymore. Sorry to burst the carefully constructed bigot bubble you've built up for yourself. It's not 1950 anymore, it's almost 2010. Welcome to the 21st century.

I do appreciate the concern about my mental state, but I'm quite stable already, thanks. I can tell by the vitriol, anger and ignorance displayed in YOUR post that you might have some lingering issues from fighting in Iraq... I do hope those get sorted out for you sooner rather than later. I'd hate for you to turn out to be one of those "idiots" who uses a perfectly harmless "tool" for terrible purposes after a heaving night of drinking and thinking about the war or the failure that your life has become.

Submitted by katy on Wed, 12/02/09 - 05:14 PM » | Print
 
 
typical liberalism and its sickness

Katy, you are entitled to your opinion just as I am entitled to mine. Would you like to lose your freedom to voice your opinion or the ability to protest perceived government intrusion against your basic human rights? This is part of the point that the author of this article was trying to make. Surely you must see that Barack Obama does not have yours or mine, or America's best interest at heart as he goes about his work as President, showboating before the camera's while making an embarrassment of himself as he bows to the King of Saudi Arabia and Head's of State in the East Asia. Yes, these things are minor when you consider about what he intends to do by socializing health care. And bankrupting our country with his plundering of the treasury so that he can continue wasteful spending on unnecessary projects, although clear at this point in time the country's economy can't handle increased debt. Just stop and think for a minute what is taking place right now in our country. When is the last time the United States Government owned private business and used taxpayer funds to help with the "clunker" car program? These are the intrusions I speak of, and you haven't seen nothing yet. This is the kind of government that is presently changing the face of Venezuela, once a proud Democracy, and now simply controlled by the whim of a crazed Chavez as he took control over private enterprise and ordered the shutdown of TV stations and radio stations that limit public information and insurgency of the people to rise up against the Chavez government. Guess what, America is right behind him. Also, whether you want to admit it or not, Obama has sold the liberals a bill of goods. You won't get the things he promised you; only the things that a Marxist would allow you to have as now you are the property of the Government, and what's good for one is good for all. Strip away capitalism and steal money from Americans who had the good sense and good fortune to reach their goals in life, and redistribute the wealth won't make our life any better. I suggest you read your history. Lastly, this nation is in for a fight of her survival. We are at war against Islamic jihad fundamentalist and they are out to cause everyone of us great harm as it's their ideology to dominate and rule the world. Think not? Open up your eyes and read. And it won't help much that we have a President who happens to also be a Muslim sympathizer. Besides socialism this is really the worst threat to our way of life. It's here Katy and for you and all liberals, we have no time to bicker over politics. We are all in this together and this is our country no matter your political and religions beliefs. This is what we should be fighting for. Instead we fight amongst us and the wolf has slipped in through the back door. Get past yourself and unite America. Our time is now. I don't have paranoia, I have knowledge.

Submitted by Infidel Czar on Wed, 12/02/09 - 06:17 AM » | Print
 
 
agree with what you say

i could not agree with you more infidel. people need to wake up to what this goverment is doing.i have spent lots of time in russia and can tell you we dont want that in america. i find that when we speak to people like darren,or baker, we are speaking to young people. people who buy into the liberal crap.i have a niece who loves obama, but cant tell you why, except for hope and change.the best we can hope for is that people like us stick together and TRY to talk some reasoning into them. this will all change in 2010 when we vote the bums out and vote in true americans.i love what you wrote here, and agree with all of it.

Submitted by PROUD AMERICAN on Wed, 12/02/09 - 08:37 PM » | Print
 
 
Getting Back to The Point

Excellent point Czar, I hope others see what you have; as long as we are fighting each other, we'll not see what this current government is trying to implement, which is a Communist/Socialist Agenda under our very noses. Anyone who has followed this president's career and looks at his past and current actions can come to no other conclusion. Not to mention the insidious infestation of the Democratic Party over the last 30 years with its Marxist Agenda. The Democratic Party as it exist today has been perverted and twisted into this unrecognizable thing. They are expert at manipulating and using the poor and minorities in order to gain more and more control over all american lives. Making promises they never keep or with a such a high cost it makes legal slaves of dependancy to the government. The price is too high. Anyone who has done an honest study of American, European and World history can see the pattern. This is not a new stratagy, this so called 'Change' has failed in every single country that has tried to implement it for the past 80 years. This Obama agenda is not what we Americans wanted or expected, we are a Democratic/Republic not a Socialist/Communist/Marxist Regime. I use to be a Democrat from way back, until I realize this party was hurting not helping me and my country. By the way I'm a minority who has been awake for a long time. I was diametrically opposed to Obama from day one, because I new where he came from and was very familiar with his type of speech (Hype) especially when he indicated "Change"; Oh boy!! the minorities in this country have been hearing this type of Rhetoric for the last 150 years. Bottomline, I don't need a baby sitter or a nanny. This country doesn't need a dictator, taking the money I earn and telling me who should get it and how I should live. I'm an individual not part of the collective. And by the way, since when is Snoope.com the all in all for infallible information? Try reading the actual books, reviewing the actual records and tapes. Fortunately for me I was around when this infestation got started so I recognized it for what it was. Frankley, I for one, am tired of being lied to over and over again by both parties. I'm sure there are plenty of publications and etc... that will accomodate the Orwellian New Speak that the current media wants to propagate but, there is still plenty of concrete documentation out there if you bother to look. After all we are all Americans, exposing the truth should not be feared but embraced. I believe our country and we can benefit and build on this.

Submitted by Wide Awake on Wed, 12/02/09 - 09:38 PM » | Print
 
 
Snopes

katy on Tue, 12/01/09 -LOl hey Katy? What do you KNOW about Snopes? I thing NOTHING. Snopes is nothing but a married couple named Mikkleson who live in LALA land in California. They are registered democrats and they do NOTHING except run their searches through lexis/nexis and then make a PERSONAL judgement on what they THINK is truth or not. They have no more validity then you do. The items you tried to debunk are all real. Two in particular, the one with Obama NOT wearing a flag pin and the one where he is standing with his hands over his crotch while the others saluted or flag were SEEN by me personally. The one about William Ayers is also true since Ayers started Obama's political life in his own apartment with Obama. Ayers admits to this himself. Every item on the list us in fact valid, Snopes not withstanding.

Submitted by Joseph on Thu, 12/03/09 - 12:48 PM » | Print
 
 
Joseph - can you provide any

Joseph - can you provide any other corroboration for these things you claim to have witnessed personally? Dates, times, photos, links to video.. anything? Can you tell us how you came to be in a position to personally attend events in which these things supposedly happened?

No, I don't think you can. You're clearly trying to just add validity to your own statements by claiming that you witnessed these things with your own eyes... it's fairly obvious that you most definitely did NOT.

And let's have the link to Ayers admitting the things you say he's admitted, too. Please. I'd LOVE to read a transcript or see a video interview of him confirming this alleged close friendship.

I won't hold my breath.

Who cares who the people who run Snopes.com are? If it was a strictly political site, maybe I'd be curious which party they were members of, but it's not. They have information from everything from grisly crimes to food-related urban legends to sports stories to email scams. They debunk not only stuff about Barack Obama, but also Sarah Palin and George W. Bush. If they were really slanted to the left, why would they bother doing that? Why not just let the Palin/Bush-related rumors fester and gain momentum? Maybe it's because they're interested in the facts and the facts only? Maybe they want to clear up false information that tends to spread like wildfire (and be picked up and run with by people like yourself)?

No, no, you're probably right... they're just liberal whack-jobs who are trying to cover the "real truth" about Obama with "fake" evidence.

Submitted by katy on Fri, 12/04/09 - 11:12 AM » | Print
 
 
2010 Election

2010 Elections are coming up. Now is the time to do your homework. Vote all the Socialist Commi's OUT!!! R or D. We are NOT out numbered! Save the U.S.A.!

Submitted by David on Tue, 12/08/09 - 12:34 AM » | Print
 
 
Katy

Katy, Katy, Katy.... Poor Katy. You said it. "Ignorance is bliss! I am so thankful that not only is there a God, but that I know him and when this world reaches it's demise, I will live on forever. I will keep you in my prayers.

Submitted by Sandra on Sat, 12/19/09 - 12:10 PM » | Print
 
 
Conservative Ignorance

It saddens me to think that people directed to this site may actually believe the blantant conservative propaganda herein. Some of the listings reference facts, but ALL are taken dangerously out of context to paint a clearly biased picture.

I think most people here would benefit by personally researching what socialism actually is, and how socialist governments are run. They are nothing like ours, and likely never will be.

I consider myself a conservative republican, but I have grown to despise what that term means. It means corrupt politicians. It means ignorance and hatred toward others. It means starting several oil wars, under the guise of justice, instead of developing energy technologies free of the ridiculously corrupt oil corporations. The United States has become a corporate oligarchy instead of a nation built upon the principles of its people.

It is sad to think that the United States that broke away from an oppressive tyrant has become one itself.

I voted for Obama and to this day I have not regretted my decision.

Submitted by Packers Fan on Thu, 12/31/09 - 07:00 PM » | Print
 
 
When the time Comes... you will be beggin TEA Partys to save YOU

When the obamanation has destroyed this nation to one step above

the murderous dictatorships of North Korea, Cuba, Somalia, Nigeria, Venezuela, China, Cambodia, RUSSIA before the wall came down,

the liberalS, progressiveS, marxistS, socialistS, communionistS  will SCREAM for help, FOR assistance, to save their "butts", their jobs, their homes, their families, their FREEDOMS...

WE THE PEOPLE MADE AMERICA GREAT,, NOT one person, or one group, or one organization.

Hopefully the believers of LIES will see the LIGHT and join Patriots to SAVE THE USA!

Submitted by American Patriot on Thu, 01/28/10 - 04:57 PM » | Print
 
 
Fundamental transformation is the true obama agenda

You got it right Matt!

The media and democrats want to ignore and playdown this salient fact: the fundamental transformation of America is the true agenda of Obama. I happen to think it is the true agenda of most of the democrat party and activists as well.

Many prominent Democrat activists and representatives have actually been making pilgramiges to Venezuela and Cuba. This is their vision for America.

Submitted by eric on Thu, 02/04/10 - 12:24 PM » | Print
 

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