Scott Baugh, Chairman of the Orange County Republican Party, has penned a response to some commentaries on this blog penned by Chip Hanlon and Matt Cunningham, highly critical of the Orange County Republican Party's process for considering endorsements in local, so called "non partisan" races. I will add by way of a one phrase "pre-commentary" that there is no such thing as a non-partisan office. Scott's piece appears below...
From Scott Baugh...
Chip Hanlon is a friend. When he writes something disparaging about the OCGOP and it get’s forwarded to me, I read it with interest - and this time with disappointment. I’m not disappointed because Chip disagrees with some action taken by the OCGOP. Chip often goes aggressively down a path with a vengeance only to realize that he has overplayed or misunderstood the facts. He did that when we endorsed Shawn Nelson – then he changed his mind and ended up supporting the endorsement. Chip’s comments about the Orange County Republican Party Endorsement process similarly is an overplay or misunderstanding of the facts.
Let’s start with the endorsement process in general. A perfect process? Of course not. In fact, I recommended abolishing the process because the results were often puzzling to me. Moreover, the fallout from folks who did not get their way was often immature. A regular refrain that I hear is to abolish the process the moment somebody’s candidate loses – even if there were good reasons for the loss. Instead of abolishing the process, the Committee decided overhaul the process and to place more objectivity into the analysis as opposed to somebody just lining up enough votes with their friends on the committee. Of course, it is still not perfect but democratic bodies rarely are. With the passage of the open primary, the process will even get more challenging because it is anticipated that the CRP will weigh in on endorsements in partisan primaries.
An additional item that should be addressed is for those that criticize the process but do not participate in the process. It’s a little like a grand jury. If the committee only hears one side of the story, the committee is more likely to buy into that story. Elections are all about competing agendas. Much like the adversarial process in our legal system, the committee necessarily relies on both sides coming forward with facts and arguments pertaining to those competing agendas so that the committee can provide a recommendation that is rooted in facts and sound arguments.
With this foregoing as a backdrop, I will address endorsement recommendations in Orange, Mission Viejo and Huntington Beach, with a significant commentary about Huntington Beach.
In Orange, we have two Republicans running for Mayor. Both are friends of mine. The Central Committee should not endorse in this race, and I believe that will be the outcome. In fact, I have asked both candidates to voluntarily withdraw their requests. A bloody fight that yields no endorsement for either side is not good for them or the party.
In Mission Viejo, I do not know all the facts there so my commentary will necessarily be incomplete. I am told that the recommendation of the Endorsement Committee was based on the evidence presented. I wasn’t there so I don’t know but the committee cannot be expected to divine a correct outcome without information from both sides. In order to get this information out, both sides have to show up and present. If there is incomplete information, those with a vested interest must come forward and present that information. If they do not, their criticism of the process is rather meaningless to me.
Huntington Beach is a little different for me than Orange or Mission Viejo because I live in Huntington Beach. I am very familiar with the players here, so I will take a little more time to respond specifically to Chip’s comments and criticisms.
First, Chip calls the Endorsement Process “cluster f-ed” with regard to Huntington Beach. Nice choice of words – the type normally chosen when well reasoned analysis is lacking.
Next, Chip likes what the OCGOP did in the endorsement of Matt Harper. Matt is a proven, longstanding conservative who has been fighting in the trenches for more than 15 years for conservative values and candidates. Thank you Chip for your vote of confidence. By the way, Matt is the only candidate that has actually been endorsed so far by the OCGOP and his proven commitment to limited government sealed his endorsement - so far – so good.
Next, Chip takes issue with the endorsement committee’s recommendation for Billy O’Connell. If fact, Chip says Billy was “Denied.” That’s a nice pejorative word, and it is wrong. The fact is that the endorsement committee made no recommendation for Mr. O’Connell. This means that the full committee must make its decision without a recommendation from the sub-committee but that really begs the question: Why did the endorsement committee make no recommendation of Mr. O’Connell?
One of the reasons is that Mr. O’Connell gave money to Democrats. A sin? Not necessarily – as Chip points out. What Chip fails to mention are the Democrats that Mr. O’Connell gave money to. First, there is the contribution to Congresswoman Loretta Sanchez. Chip would have his readers believe that she is just a Democrat – a garden variety, harmless, well-meaning Democrat. That’s like saying Michael Jordan is just a basketball player or Tiger Woods is just a golfer. No, the fact of the matter is that Sanchez is not only a Democrat, she is a liberal democrat. Sanchez deceitfully masquerades as a conservative “blue dog” Democrat when she is in fact a liberal lap dog for Speaker Nancy Pelosi. Sanchez faithfully voted with Pelosi, Reid and Obama on the stimulus bill that nobody wanted, the health care bill that nobody read and the Cap & Trade bill that we cannot afford. She is precisely the kind of Democrat that is leading the economic destruction of this country. She’s not a harmless little ole Democrat who received a contribution from Mr. O’Connell. In point of fact, Sanchez is the number one target of Orange County Republicans for removal from office. Oh, did I mention that Sanchez wants to impose the largest tax increase in the history of the United States by refusing to support an extension of the Bush tax cuts. Well, I digress. Is this contribution by itself fatal? I don’t know but let’s move on to the other Democrat that Chip conveniently fails to reveal – Senator Lou Correa.
Is Correa another garden variety harmless Democrat? Let’s review the bidding here. Correa authored the original legislation that gave public employees the right to retire with a 3 at 50 formula. For those unfamiliar with the formula, it allows public employees to retire at 90% of their full pay at 50 years of age. With spiking, the pay often exceeds 100%. Even Chip would acknowledge that this is horrible policy that is leading to the fiscal ruin of our cities, counties and state. Beyond leading this fiscally calamitous charge, Correa voted for the largest tax increase of any state in the history of the United States. This is actually not shocking. After all, he is a Democrat. What is shocking is that Correa promised the voters in his district that he would not vote for a tax increase. Why did he make that promise? It is because he was in a tight race in 2006 and was going to lose his race without a tax promise to the voters. As it turns out, Correa won his race by less than 1,400 votes with his promise and then turned around an voted for the largest tax increase in the history of state taxes.
Huge tax increases, bloated pensions and a betrayal of his word to the voters. This is the type of Democrat (and applies to some Republicans as well) that has the American people up in arms about not trusting government or elected officials. What Chip calls “a rule” forbidding contributions to Democrats is not a rule at all. Rather, it is a factually based question that allows the committee to dig down and attempt to ferret out whether the individual seeking the endorsement can be counted on to sustain a limited government platform. Apparently, the sub-committee was not persuaded that he was ready for that charge and it punted the question to the full committee. It may not have been helpful to Mr. O’Connell that he had never been seen at a Republican Party event prior to his request for an endorsement. This alone sets him far apart from Matthew Harper. And, yes Chip, his lack of familiarity to the committee members, coupled with doubts about his viability were contributing factors to the committee’s recommendation.
Is Mr. O’Connell a good Republican? I presume so. Are there harmless explanations for his contributions to Democrats? I presume so. Was the endorsement committee right to punt the issue to the full committee? Absolutely. The endorsement committee is tasked with red flagging issues, facts and concerns about candidates – especially those who have no history in the party. The committee did its job – and did it well. Mr. O’Connell is free then to come to the full committee and seek the endorsement. Mr. O’Connell would be wise to call the committee members first, explain why he gave those contributions and then seek their support. After all, the endorsement of the party does not come looking for the candidates. Rather, it is the candidates who are seeking the endorsement. Personal communication with those who have the votes goes a long way to resolving doubts about one’s commitment to limited government. To my knowledge, Mr. O’Connell has not called a single member of the committee.
Next is Barbara Delgleize. Barbara represents the top of the field for the candidates currently running for office in Huntington Beach. She will be a great council member. With respect to the endorsement committee, however, Barbara has social views that are out of step with not only the OCGOP but also with the majority of Californians. Barbara believes in gay marriage – the majority of Californians do not. She also does not believe in certain restrictions for minors with respect to abortions, including parental consent. The majority of Californians disagree with her. Will she vote on these issues as a councilmember? Not likely. Are these issues relevant for endorsement committee’s consideration? Absolutely. There is a general distrust among conservative of those who claim to be fiscally conservative and socially liberal simply because it is very rare for somebody to be intellectually divided like that. Sure, it is possible to be both but our experience is that Republican candidates that are socially liberal tend to be the first ones to get in line to increases taxes or be liberal on other economic issues. You don’t have to look any further than our current Governor to see this. In fact, our Governor was sold to us as one who would be economically conservative so we shouldn’t worry about his liberal views on social issues. Given that backdrop, it is easy to understand why OCGOP Republicans have a mistrust of those who claim to be economically conservative while being socially liberal.
I find Barbara to be very personable, engaging and credible. I trust that she will be a very good member of the council. I believe that she will tackle the fiscal issues facing our city, including the pension mess. In fact, her view on pensions precluded her from receiving the endorsement of the police union. Good for her! I will be casting a vote for her. But I draw my conclusions because I know her. Barbara, like Billy O’Connell is not known by the committee. As stated above, it simply would be wise for candidates seeking the endorsement of the OCGOP to get to know the members of that body so that doubts about the candidates commitment to limited government can be mitigated.
The last person that Chip takes issue with is Fred Speaker. Chip interviewed Mr. Speaker. I read Chip’s post about the interview and was very concerned about Mr. Speaker’s answers. I immediately contacted the endorsement committee members to inquire about his interview process. I further asked the Chairman of the Endorsement Committee to follow up with Mr. Speaker to determine what his views were on Measure O. What I have learned since then is illuminating. Mr. Speaker’s concern about Measure O has to do more with ballot box budgeting rather than opposition to Measure O or to infrastructure commitments. I don’t share his concern because I believe the voters rightfully cannot trust city council members to resist union influence to take infrastructure money and divert it to salaries and benefits. Notwithstanding, I’m told that Mr. Speaker does, in fact, support Measure O. If he does not, my assessment is that he will have difficulty in securing the endorsement of the OCGOP. Digging deeper, however, you will find that Mr. Speaker believes in defined contributions for any new municipal hire – including police and fire. This view can be very detrimental to his political health. If there were four votes on the Huntington Beach City Council for defined contributions, the City would make tremendous strides in solving its fiscal challenges – including its infrastructure challenges that Measure O seeks to address.
With respect to the endorsement of candidates by police and fire unions, my proposal in January was for no candidate to receive help from the OCGOP if they took money or endorsement from public employee unions. The entire Central Committee did not want to include endorsement for two reasons. First, a candidate cannot always control whether he or she gets endorsed (I find this to be a weak reason). Second, some folks thought that there was no reason to antagonize the unions by refusing their endorsement. Again, I disagreed with the approach but the OCGOP Central Committee wanted to start with the ban on contributions first and then assess how impactful the policy would be. With that said, I have a healthy degree of skepticism for any candidate that seeks an endorsement from public employee unions. Harry Sidhu’s endorsement by public employee unions, coupled with the $1.3 million dollars spent by them on his behalf is a prime reason why I have skepticism. Mr. Speaker’s acceptance of the police union endorsement does in fact raise a suspicion in my mind. His evasive answers on Measure O to Chip likewise raises a suspicion in my mind. Are these fatal to his endorsement? I don’t know. I will say, however, that his commitment to support defined contribution plans for new hires reduces some of my concern. Council members Devin Dwyer and Don Hanson are courageously leading this charge for defined contributions in Huntington Beach. It would be great if they could get two more votes on the council to implement it.
In conclusion, the decision of the OCGOP to take on public employee unions so that our cities, counties and state can gets their fiscal houses in order would be toothless if we did not actively endorse candidates. Shawn Nelson and John Moorlach are leading this charge at the county level. Ed Reno is leading this charge in Newport Beach. Jim Righeimer is leading this charge in Costa Mesa. Devin Dwyer and Don Hanson are leading this charge in Huntington Beach. The list goes on and on. The bottom line, however, is that we need reform minded majorities on each council to achieve this goal. While our endorsement process is not perfect, we are making strides to change the dialogue in this county to effectuate fiscal sanity when it comes to public employee unions in specific, and limited government in general.
I’m certain that I have not addressed everybody’s concern in this lengthy commentary but I do hope that everybody has a better understanding of the process.
As a side note, one commentator to Chip’s blog stated something to the effect that I should not be Chairman because I was partners with Mayor Willie Brown. Actually, I was a partner in the International Law Firm of Mayer Brown with over 1,500 lawyers. I have never met, spoken to or worked with Willie Brown. There is a slight, but very meaningful difference in the spelling of “Mayer” and “Mayor.” One should take note.

















































Comments
I wonder how many Republicans
I wonder how many Republicans were registered in probably the more "registration rich"
environment in memory while we form the circular firing squad. It is a poor idea in grand theory and one that is being poorly executed.
We should dump this process and re-focus on why the central committee exists -- to register Republicans.
Scott Baugh is a joke
This ridiculous diatribe from Mr. OCGOP is exactly why many good republicans are leaving the party and becoming independent declined to states. He has led this county closer to becoming a blue state than any time in its history, and his failure to register republicans is a direct result of his actions, and lack thereof over all of his years in this position.
"A joke?" Get lost, whoever
"A joke?" Get lost, whoever posted that.
Scott's a friend and I have no problem having an open debate like this. I had been hearing that Scott was displeased; I'm glad to see him post those concerns openly here at Red County. Indeed, I'd argue it's evidence of our ever-increasing influence (sidenote: last week I wrote about our new Red County Facebook page. Since then, our fan base there has DOUBLED! Click here to join for yourself).
Obviously, I'll be replying. First, a preview:
- I've spoken in-depth to both of Fred Speaker's handlers since my original post and still don't have the Chairman's confidence in him.
- The lack of commentary about Orange, I feel, is telling. I've learned more on that story, and it's awfully distasteful.
- There's still one more race/endorsement fiasco I intend to detail tomorrow.
The Chairman's right: I am pretty aggressive at times. Thankfully, that's en vogue in 2010. Also, I'm pretty sure I've got a good handle on the facts in all of these cases. Judge for yourself as I unload with a string of posts in the morning.
An aggressive reporter? Heaven Forbid
Chip,
In order to preserve the republic the press is supposed to be aggressive. The Chairman and many others in position of power have gotten used to the sniveling "I don't dare offend anyone approach." And I mean both sides of the aisle. Not just one or the other.
Congrats on the success of your facebook page!
I would be interested in what you attribute the increasing numbers of people registering as independent, don't care to state to; it's been going on for the last ten to 15 years on the democratic side; not the republicans are seeing it happening with life long members. Be an interesting article.
One last thought: "Chip
One last thought:
"Chip often goes aggressively down a path with a vengeance only to realize that he has overplayed or misunderstood the facts. "
That line I don't appreciate nor agree with, obviously. It will ensure that my remarks tomorrow will be exceedingly direct--as was that sentence. Fair's fair, I'm sure my friend would agree.
" I have never met, spoken to
" I have never met, spoken to or worked with Willie Brown. ". Really Scott? Correct this statement before someone holds it against you.
social conservatives
Well, there are a few social conservatives like Mike Huckabee when governor of AR was known as tax hike Mike. So, yes, there are a few conservative fiscal and liberal social people and on the other hand, a few social conservatives pretty economically liberal like Bob Casey in Pa. In fact before the religious right moved to the Republican party they supported liberal Jimmy Carter over moderate Gerald Ford. But alas, the Gop in OC and other places forgot that.. In fact, OC supported Gerald Ford probably about 20 points over Jimmy Carter. So, I don't see anything wrong with supporting a liberal on social issues that is fiscal conservative for certain offices. After all, OC was the home of Richard Nixon, not the most conservative fellow but certainly better than George McGovern.
I'm not done, actually.
Billy O'Connell: I'm stunned Scott is now trying to outright attack this candidate. Yes, the Democrats he wrote checks to are among the worst. Too bad that to get in front of our sitting electeds one has to pay tribute in the form of a campaign contribution, but that is indeed the reality of political life.
These two particular Dems hold sway with funds that could support his non-profit women's shelter, an enterprise I think most would find admirable, at the very least. There is no way on Earth that those checks-- if the committee did its deep fact-finding research they're allegedly supposed to-- should be held against him.
The fact is: O'Connell would be a fantastic, fiscally conservative vote on that council. Rock solid.
Finally, the assertion that Billy should get to know the members of the committee works both ways: there isn't one person on that endorsement committee from Huntington Beach. How could they possibly know better than those of us who are here in the middle of this fight--- remember, Scott, you assert in your post that participation is the key to knowledge-- who our best candidates are?!
Thus, the conclusion I've come to recently and that I've become so passionate about: if they don't know what they're doing, they need to get the heck out of the endorsement business altogether.
I used to have ZERO faith in
I used to have ZERO faith in Baugh. After his strong anti-union speech, I decided to take another look. As chairman, he has seen the far right pulling hard. Baugh has smartly decided it would be best to steer the Party back to the right rather than fight a two-front war. I now have confidence that the Republican Party is the RIGHT party, thanks in large part to Baugh.
Further, Baugh is not perfect. Nor if the endorsement process. It has been some 2000 years since we have seen perfection on Earth and I wouldn't expect it to be born of politics.
Until perfection does arrive, may God bless the United States of America.
Voters Deserve to Know
The endorsement process isn't perfect, but Scott Baugh and the OCGOP are doing the voters a service by looking into non-partisan races, like mine, and determining which candidate supports the Republican platform. Many thanks for your efforts to keep Orange County the most Republican county, Scott.
Scott Baugh is an embarrassment
This guy is trying to cover his backside after being the man in charge of such a screwed up, corrupt process--the Orange County Central Committee endorsements. The Republican Party is in trouble. We will see many Republicans withdrawing financial support and even changing parties after this mess. The whole Central Committee is a joke, especially after this endorsement process fiasco.
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