Afghanistan: Could it Be Obama's LBJ Moment?

By Angie Vogt | 10/29/09 | 05:59 PM EDT | 19 Comments

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While President Obama "dithers" about the War in Afghanistan, our troops are battling the bloodiest month since the War in Afghanistan began. The President has lead the country and the world through an arduous month of indecision about whether to grant General McChrystal's request for a troop surge to turn the tide against an emboldened Al Qaida resurgence. He is failing in his duty as Commander-in-Chief, a role that he is ill-equipped to serve. This is not a criticism of his lack of military experience, but an observation of his personality and lack of leadership.

Some pundits say we should just cut our losses and get out of the quagmire altogether. General McChrystal, himself a terrorist expert with vast experience in the Middle East and a successful track record leading special ops in Iraq for five years, has deemed the situation "winnable," but only if he can get more troops on the ground. He made his request on October 1st. The President’s evasive and non-committal response has revealed a frightening glimpse of the Commander-in-Chief’s leadership style, which is little more than consensus building.

The President’s resistance to making a decision for General McChrystal has played out publicly, for the world stage. This would be embarrassing, if it weren’t for the life and death importance of it all. One can either interpret his actions as pure Chicago power-play hubris, a sort of "you are not the boss of me" maneuver, or as genuine indecision and uncertainty.

Neither of these interpretations bode well for our national interests. Both are demoralizing and dangerous to our troops’ safety and well-being.

It’s not hard to guess what’s behind Obama’s hesitations. He certainly feels the pressure of appeasing his left-wing doves who want the U.S. out of both wars. The last thing he wants to do is upset his donor base by appearing as some kind of “hawk.” This action would jeopardize his ambitious domestic agenda, which is struggling under the weight of a bad economy, continued unemployment and a citizen movement that has grown impatient with Congress.

In this excellent two-part interview by Spiegel, dated October 26th, political commentator Charles Krauthammer deftly answers the question, “What is the Obama doctrine?”:

I would say his vision of the world appears to me to be so naïve that I am not even sure he's able to develop a doctrine. He has a view of the world as regulated by self-enforcing international norms, where the peace is kept by some kind of vague international consensus, something called the international community, which to me is a fiction, acting through obviously inadequate and worthless international agencies. I wouldn't elevate that kind of thinking to a doctrine because I have too much respect for the word doctrine.

On March 27th, President Obama boldly proclaimed, “Today, I'm announcing a comprehensive, new strategy for Afghanistan and Pakistan.” He then proceeded to offer nothing that even resembled a strategy. Now that the situation has become critical, Obama seems unwilling or unable to follow through on the right course of action, either for fear of agitating the political interests of his base, or, at the very least, because he just can’t decide what to do. His lack of command in the midst of something so serious is unsettling.

Forget the fan boy comparisons of Obama to JFK, Abraham Lincoln and Jesus Christ. President Obama is looking like President Lyndon Johnson during his first months as president in 1964. He was caught between an emerging conflict in Vietnam and his domestic ambitions, called The Great Society program.

For a better understanding of this I refer to H.R. McMaster’s book, “Dereliction of Duty.” McMaster, the author of “Dereliction of Duty,” is an Army officer, West Point graduate, who researched and corrected many myths surrounding the policy failures in Vietnam.

McMaster, who served as a close adviser to General Petraeus, described the situation of LBJ's Vietnam policy as not really a policy at all, but an ongoing pursuit of consensus. (To read a great PBS interview with McMaster, click here).

Johnson avoided making the necessary commitment to either fully engage in the conflict or completely pull out of it. Johnson 's main goal was to keep special interests on both sides of the debate assuaged, so as to avoid open debate and conflict from constituents, which might threaten support for his domestic programs.
 
Don’t assume that McMaster is some embittered military officer pointing the finger of failure at the politicians. He reserves a hefty amount of blame to the military brass that served Johnson, especially Secretary of Defense, McNamara, along with the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who deliberately sidetracked reports and plans from military leaders on the ground detailing winning strategies that would hasten the end of the war and ensure victory.
 
The book details and cites an abundance of evidence that McNamara placated Johnson’s anxiety and avoidance of decision making by shielding him from such information. Instead McNamara created a policy known as “graduated pressure” or “the middle-course strategy” that allowed Johnson to assure the public that we were not engaged in war, while still allowing limited warfare operations, slowly increasing our troop commitment over time. The lack of commitment to a winning strategy resulted in the worst quagmire and most poorly managed conflict in U.S. history.

Today’s military brass are a different breed, and well versed in McMaster’s work. These leaders want victory and they want it with minimal loss of life. “Mr. President,” I can imagine him saying, “if you give us what we need, we will serve you well. We can win this. We must win this.”
 
On October 28th, 27 days after General McChrystal’s request, the President announced that he is “likely to give him SOME of the troops requested, but not all.”

Meanwhile, the President’s Machiavellian health care reform ambitions are being debated and sorted out, with the customary secrecy and insider trader action typical of Congress. Cap-and-trade will be up for discussion soon. The President proudly signed into law a bill that will give the military a 3% pay raise, without mentioning the hidden rider in the bill that throws a bone to the gay lobby by expanding hate crimes legislation. The troops in harm’s way will be thrilled, I’m sure. Obama’s domestic agenda is marching along smartly.

President Obama lacks the leadership to carry out his most solemn duty as Commander-in-Chief. He keeps his military advisers at arms length, while over-promising a domestic utopia that the public does not want and cannot afford (much like the Great Society programs that never delivered). My fear is that our potential to build on the success we had in Afghanistan in the early days of the conflict will be wasted by Obama’s political ambitions and unwillingness to command.

I would be angry, but I just learned that eight more soldiers will be returning to our nearby army base, Ft. Lewis, in draped coffins. I would be angry at the President’s dereliction of duty, but I am too sad right now for those who carried out their duty honorably, even in spite of a weak commander-in-chief.

TAGS: Afghanistan War, Obama, General McChrystal, LBJ, Vietnam, social agenda, health care reform, Great Society

 

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As bad as LBJ was, Obama is

As bad as LBJ was, Obama is even worse. His hesitation is costing lives.

Submitted by Shannon on Thu, 10/29/09 - 06:00 PM » | Print
 
 
INTEGRITY FIRST...Angie fails

Shannon, I am not responding to you. I comment in this spot on this thread so that it does not get buried at the bottom of a lengthy give and take that has been sparked by Angie's post.

Angie begins her piece with the following:

While President Obama "dithers" about the War in Afghanistan, our troops are battling the bloodiest month since the War in Afghanistan began. The President has lead the country and the world through an arduous month of indecision about whether to grant General McChrystal's request for a troop surge to turn the tide against an emboldened Al Qaida resurgence. He is failing in his duty as Commander-in-Chief, a role that he is ill-equipped to serve. This is not a criticism of his lack of military experience, but an observation of his personality and lack of leadership.

One could hardly pack more anti-Obama pejoratives into a paragraph as Angie does. She follows Red County's general style of Obama bashing. I do not call into question her right to free speech.

She continues in this piece to push the meme of "dithering" and "indecision". She expands on this to assert in a reply to a commenter:

Obama's public display of what you so foolishly regard as "taking his time," is interpreted by world leaders as weakness, waffling, and indecision."

I called this assertion into question and asked Angie if she could document this assertion. She replied:

"of course I can"

Then she has completely disengaged.

Angie wears the mantle of a retired USAF officer among other personal life experiences. I wear the mantle of a USArmy veteran and father to a 28 year old son who is a career USAF SSgt. who has served in the ME in OIF and quite likely to serve in the Afghanistan theatre of operations. As such, we both are familiar with the USAF core values.

Integrity First

Service Before Self

Excellence In All We Do

Angie fails abysimally  in meeting the code of Integrity First. She made an assertion that she claimed she could back up. And then she faded to black.  

She faded to black....

Submitted by Leland Reed on Sat, 10/31/09 - 09:57 AM » | Print
 
 
Our president's foreign

Our president's foreign policy decisions are reckless and we are seeing the unraveling of years of hard/smart work. We are weaker as a result of this administration.

Submitted by Jerry on Thu, 10/29/09 - 06:02 PM » | Print
 
 
Obama Takes Personal Responsibility

Angie speaks the undeniable truth that President Barak Husein Obama's dithering has caused an increased loss of American military lives fighting in Afghanistan. The President tacitly admitted this responsibility by going to stand in the rain at midnight last night...

"The overnight trip was not announced in advance. The president, wearing a dark suit and a long overcoat, left the White House just before midnight. A small contingent of reporters and photographers was quietly called to follow him to Dover, where he met for two hours with members of 14 families. He returned to the White House at 4:45 a.m."

Former President Bush never made this trip to Dover AFB. This is because he never caused any deaths as has President Obama.

If President Obama had not dithered, he would not have had to go to personally apologize to those 14 families.

 

Submitted by Leland Reed on Thu, 10/29/09 - 07:57 PM » | Print
 
 
Former President Bush never

Former President Bush never made this trip to Dover AFB. This is because he never caused any deaths as has President Obama.

If President Obama had not dithered, he would not have had to go to personally apologize to those 14 families.

Submitted by korvix1 on Thu, 10/29/09 - 11:53 PM » | Print
 
 
a clarification

Thank you for your comments and for reading! I'd like to offer a slight twist on your perspective about the difference between Bush and Obama. Between Iraq and Afghanistan Bush had about 4,000 American soldiers die in combat on his watch. He took that very seriously and declined going to Dover to witness the arrival of caskets, choosing instead to regularly make personal visits to the families of the soldiers. He was known to be emotional and very personal in each and every one of these visits. Even if Obama had approved McChrystal's surge right away there likely would have been some deaths occur on his watch. It's war, after all. The difference is that Obama seems to have no philosophical or strategic sensibility about him, neither as a civilian statesman nor as a Commander-in-Chief (military leader). His presence at Dover is an honorable attempt, in my view, to begin to tap into the military culture. (I also admired his well formed salute--someone taught him well)! Unfortunately his sincerity seems hollow, given his seeming disregard for his military leaders on the ground. I just wanted to offer that perspective for our left-of-center and independent readers who are more sympathetic with Obama than the right-of-center readers!

Submitted by Angie Vogt on Fri, 10/30/09 - 01:46 AM » | Print
 
 
Now That We Are Getting More Real With Each Other

Thank you for your clarification. Let me say as part of my clarification back to you that I detested the way that Bush went into Iraq and shifted focus away from Afghanistan. He was impulsive and not given to careful consideration of major commitments. Yes, after wise elders embodied by the Iraq Study Group came into being, Bush slowed down his decision making with much better results.

Obama is exactly the kind of C-I-C that I wanted back then and want now. He takes his time in making a very major decision. Going to Dover was part of this decision making process. He is highly invested in McCrystal's leadership in Afghanistan. He picked him to turn matters around. McCrystal does not feel discounted that Obama is taking care in his decision. 

Sadly, it is the current practice of those wish overall failure of the Obama presidency to engage in word play. They take their lead from such figures as Cheney, Palin, Limbaugh, and Beck who offer up the pejorative. Taking careful consideration gets turned into "dithering". It does not take genius to play that game. It only takes malevolent intent.

 

Submitted by Leland Reed on Fri, 10/30/09 - 08:56 AM » | Print
 
 
Ever heard of General Eric Shinseki?

You know, the guy who told the civilians in charge (those guys who you imply were ever-so-more qualified to lead our Armed Forces than Obama) that they would need 200,000 additional troops in Iraq after the invasion?  The guy Paul Wolfowitz derided in public and the rest ignored?

You remember - the General who asked for more troops and didn't get them - and was right?  That muck-up cost thousands of American lives.

Where were your ignorant ramblings then?

We needed some "dithering" in 2003 and instead we got decisions from the gut that turned out to be so much vomitus.  I am so glad Obama is taking his time for important decisions.

You have absolutely no qualifications to be commenting on war strategy.  None.  Go climb back under your rock, Ms. Vogt.

Submitted by Anonymous on Fri, 10/30/09 - 12:55 AM » | Print
 
 
You know Mr Anonymous, you

You know Mr Anonymous, you could have made a good point, reinforcing that it is a mistake for politicians of any party to put politics and hubris before the best interests of the State and its citizens. Instead you took the low road to put politics and hubris first and snipe at Angie Vogt. I cannot speak for Ms Vogt, but I am confident that she, like me, is equally critical of mistakes made in other administrations, but this does not lessen the impact of President Obama's ineptitude as COmmander in Chief.

I urge you to review her "ramblings", which actually ill-fit that description, having cogent points, well stated and supported. She, in fact reports facts and defers to others who are extremely qualified for commentary.

I was impressed, Mr Anonymous, with your intellect,  logic, and objective power of debate, so well summed up by the "climb back under your rock..." comment. These are truly the level of discourse and civil debate this nation needs to solve our challenges. Bravo.

Submitted by Anti-Anonymous on Fri, 10/30/09 - 01:39 AM » | Print
 
 
Ill considered political bull

That's what her post is.  You can't spin this any other way.

Not cogent - not well supported.  Perhaps well written but so what?  The content is completely political and was posted only for political purposes.  Ms. Vogt is a political commentator.  She has no qualifications on the subject of national war policy.

Ptui.

Submitted by Anonymous on Fri, 10/30/09 - 01:47 AM » | Print
 
 
What Bush will always be

What Bush will always be criticized for (and rightly so) is the blind allegiance he showed to Rumsfeld, which is why the war in Iraq was so poorly managed after the invasion. Another problem was the private contracting of so many services that would have been more efficiently performed by the military. Unfortunately, the military had been reduced so severely by the Clinton years (by nearly a third) that we couldn't cover, ergo, private contracting seemed to be the best answer for providing non-combat type resources (building, mess hall facility management, construction logistics, to name a few). However, with reference to Shinseki's recommendations, there is a major comparison to be made: Shinseki's recommendations were heard and rejected. McChrystal has barely had a hearing and Obama's public display of what you so foolishly regard as "taking his time," is interpreted by world leaders as weakness, waffling, and indecision. One tour in surveillance and tactical operations does not make me a strategist. My interest in the subject and my study of policy makes me at least as qualified to comment on this as anybody. Besides, I sleep with a high ranking military officer...so my interest is personal:-)

Submitted by Angie Vogt on Fri, 10/30/09 - 04:29 AM » | Print
 
 
Turning the heat down a notch...

Angie, thanks for your reply.  I sense from your last statement that your opinion must be influenced by your husband's views on Obama's policy-making process in addition to your own (and his) political views.  I would imagine you reinforce each other on this in some fashion and that shows in your commentary.  As your husband is just a Colonel in the Air National Guard I would seriously doubt that he has any inside track on the internal deliberations on war policy between the WH and Pentagon.  That would be happening way above his pay grade.  He may hear rumors and opinions from fellow officers but they are what they are.  I know how it works.

Mr. Reed says in a later comment that you make statements that aren't backed with facts.  Your piece is pure opinion and there is no way to read it except as such.  You don't have an inside track on the deliberations.  You don't have a war policy background or training based on a read of your bio.  You do have an axe to grind...your commentary is always reliably conservative.

Tell me why, exactly, we should not read your piece for what it is:  An unsubstantiated political attack?

And by the way, there were plenty of troops available in March of 2003 to ensure the U.S. had a substantial post-war force level.  As you correctly noted Bush deferred to Rumsfeld.  But it had nothing to do with force reductions from the so-called "peace dividend".  Bush had the forces but not the will to use them judiciously.  He bought into Kagan's vision and the country paid a huge price.

Submitted by Anonymous on Fri, 10/30/09 - 12:42 PM » | Print
 
 
how funny that you so quickly

how funny that you so quickly ignored my reason for bringing up my husband...I said it to demonstrate that my interest "is personal." I think you are rather enjoying arguing with yourself....so I'll not get in the way. Too many fish to fry while the markets are caving to the floor in response to the false GDP analysis from yesterday. You seek sources to reinforce your views, then charge me with doing it as though it undermines the validity of my arguments. That's your prerogative.

Submitted by Angie Vogt on Fri, 10/30/09 - 02:06 PM » | Print
 
 
It's personal for me, too

A friend of mine was killed in Afghanistan in 2006.  He wasn't a soldier but a U.S. Forest Service employee working on training Afghans in animal husbandry and sustainable agriculture practices.  He was killed while in a Humvee in a convoy going from one place to another.  He was twenty-seven years old.

We all have a stake in this, Ms. Vogt.  We're all Americans.  That's why I deplore articles like yours that try to use the situation to make political points.  It's so transparent.  Show me a piece of yours from 2003 where you accused the president of going into Iraq with too few troops.  If I'm not mistaken it would have been personal for you back then, too.

Your piece was just politics.  The "personal" thing is a schtick.

But go ahead, walk away from engaging with me.  That's what people like you do when facing criticism you know hits home.

Submitted by Anonymous on Fri, 10/30/09 - 06:42 PM » | Print
 
 
One tour in the USAF twenty years ago

Does not a war strategist make.

Submitted by Anonymous on Fri, 10/30/09 - 12:56 AM » | Print
 
 
Can You Document This Assertion?

Again in the spirit of being real with each other, I became immediately dubious of your statement:

Obama's public display of what you so foolishly regard as "taking his time," is interpreted by world leaders as weakness, waffling, and indecision."

I have tried to run this assertion down myself to check sources that back this assertion up. I am getting absolutely nowhere, despite having reasonably good search skills. I do not have access to private or confidential sources.

Lee

Submitted by Leland Reed on Fri, 10/30/09 - 10:35 AM » | Print
 
 
of course I can

of course I can

Submitted by Angie Vogt on Fri, 10/30/09 - 02:07 PM » | Print
 
 
Pregnant Pause

Well, do we have to say "pretty please"? Or are we waiting for me to completely loose my marbles so I can't do The Math Question thing?
 

Submitted by Leland Reed on Fri, 10/30/09 - 04:59 PM » | Print
 
 
Of course she can't

It was a made-up statement

Submitted by Anonymous on Fri, 10/30/09 - 06:28 PM » | Print
 

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